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"Leaky" vaccines= worsening viruses
Posted on 8/17/21 at 7:52 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 7:52 am
Apologies if this has been discussed. But how is this not exactly what is happening with the "vaccines"??? Leaky vaccine study article from Healthline
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 7:54 am to RyanMartin835
Because the current variants were around before mass vaccinations occurred
Posted on 8/17/21 at 7:55 am to RyanMartin835
Prepare to listen to the lamentations of the jabbers
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 7:56 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:01 am to Strannix
Boosters from here to infinity 
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:04 am to RyanMartin835
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These less-than-perfect vaccines create a “leaky” barrier against the virus. Vaccinated individuals may get sick but have less severe symptoms, but the virus survives long enough to transmit to others, which allows it to survive and spread throughout a population.
So basically the Covid vaccines.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:04 am to RyanMartin835
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:05 am to iron banks
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Boosters from here to infinity
Step 1: Help Steal an Election
Step 2: Boosters from Here to Eternity
Step 3: Profit
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:06 am to RyanMartin835
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Our data do not demonstrate that vaccination was responsible for the evolution of hyperpathogenic strains of MDV, and we may never know for sure why they evolved in the first place. Clearly, many potentially relevant ecological pressures on virulence have changed with the intensification of the poultry industry. For instance, as the industry has expanded, broilers have become a much larger part of the industry, and broiler lifespans have halved with advances in animal genetics and husbandry; all else being equal, this would favour more virulent strains [28], so too might greater genetic homogeneity in flocks [38] or high-density rearing conditions [13], or indeed increased frequencies of maternally derived antibody if natural MDV infections became more common as the industry intensified in the pre-vaccine era (Fig 3) [39].
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 8:18 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:07 am to RyanMartin835
Rogan said last week he has some medical professionals contacting him that they are terrified about the vaccine causing more virulent strains, but they can't say anything for fear of being canceled.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:08 am to RyanMartin835
Yay! Another vaccine post!!!!
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:12 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:Those professionals are complete idiots, and lack even a good high school education level in how viruses work
Rogan said last week he has some medical professionals contacting him that they are terrified about the vaccine causing more virulent strains, but they can't say anything for fear of being canceled.
Please, for all that is good in humanity, give me how a vaccine makes more virulent strains? Its absurd and simply throwing words out
Nothing "makes" the virus mutate. Its simple, the more hosts and more viral replication that happens, the more mutations. That simple really. Even if a vaccine is only has 10% efficacy, that still helps in reducing replication which therefore helps in reducing mutations
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 8:14 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:16 am to lsupride87
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Please, for all that is good in humanity, give me how a vaccine makes more virulent strains? Its absurd and simply throwing words out
so the hypothesis for this study is concerning extremely deadly and swift viruses like Ebola
and the hypothesis would be that instead of virulent strains killing their hosts before having the ability to spread, the vaccine would keep the host alive long enough to spread to other, non vaccinated individuals
this doesn't really come into play with COVID since COVID doesn't exactly kill people quickly, but like the average death from COVID is like 17-21 days
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:16 am to RyanMartin835
From your own link...
Now don’t get me wrong, I’d never support forcing anyone to get the vaccine. You are fully capable of weighing the costs and the benefits as you perceive them. Just don’t expect me to hold a greater concern for your safety than you hold for yourself. So if a leaky vaccine puts your health at greater risk while protecting me against death... well... so be it. There’s a solution available if you want it.
quote:The paper finds that leaky vaccines only pose an elevated threat for unvaccinated individuals. So if you are worried about a leaky vaccine putting you at risk, fortunately, there is a very straight forward solution... just get the vaccine.
“Our research demonstrates that the use of leaky vaccines can promote the evolution of nastier ‘hot’ viral strains that put unvaccinated individuals at greater risk,” Nair said.
Now don’t get me wrong, I’d never support forcing anyone to get the vaccine. You are fully capable of weighing the costs and the benefits as you perceive them. Just don’t expect me to hold a greater concern for your safety than you hold for yourself. So if a leaky vaccine puts your health at greater risk while protecting me against death... well... so be it. There’s a solution available if you want it.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 8:23 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:16 am to RyanMartin835
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Apologies if this has been discussed. But how is this not exactly what is happening with the "vaccines"??? Leaky vaccine study article from Healthline
The anti Vax folks got so excited by this info. It really doesn't change anything.
if vaccinated peeps are now getting sick by the virus, yes mutation of the virus can occur in vaccinated people.
that being said, we absolutely know that the virus stays in unvaccinated folks much longer, they are getting sicker, and most definitly has more opportunity for mutation which could lead to stronger variations.
Is the vaccination perfect, no. Does it protect better against hospitalizations, death, mutation, etc...the data says a resounding YES.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:17 am to Salmon
quote:And that still isnt the "vaccine casuing a mutation". It is still the basic science of more hosts= more replication= more mutations
so the hypothesis for this study is concerning extremely deadly and swift viruses like Ebola
and the hypothesis would be that instead of virulent strains killing their hosts before having the ability to spread, the vaccine would keep the host alive long enough to spread to other, non vaccinated individuals
this doesn't really come into play with COVID since COVID doesn't exactly kill people quickly, but like the average death from COVID is like 17-21 days
The vaccine did nothing beside keep the fricker from dying in this scenario
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:18 am to lsupride87
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And that still isnt the "vaccine casuing a mutation". It is still the basic science of more hosts= more replication= more mutations
The vaccine did nothing beside keep the fricker from dying in this scenario
oh I know
if anything, this study is more pro vaccine than anti vaccine, as their own conclusion is to have 100% vaccinated populations
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:19 am to lsupride87
Every “variant of interest” has come from a 3rd world shithole with vacc rates less than 10%
South Africa
India
Peru
South Africa
India
Peru
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:20 am to RyanMartin835
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could allow more virulent versions of a virus to survive, putting those who are unvaccinated at greater risk of severe illness.
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:21 am to lsupride87
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Nothing "makes" the virus mutate. Its simple, the more hosts and more viral replication that happens, the more mutations. That simple really. Even if a vaccine is only has 10% efficacy, that still helps in reducing replication which therefore helps in reducing mutations
Not a medical professional, but would significant replication and transmission of the virus from vaccinated individuals to others give the virus more of an opportunity to mutate into something that avoids current antibodies? The virus gets to replicate and “train” inside of vaccinated individuals. One can argue that the mutations may be less severe, but we won’t know until we do this global trial.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 8:24 am
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:21 am to RyanMartin835
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