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re: LDH confirms all deaths with a covid positive result count as a covid death

Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10601 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:42 pm to
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They have absolutely used deaths in order to sway both political and public opinion to agree with the lockdowns


Fact
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:43 pm to
One of the big things to pull from this is skepticism in the comparison of countries.

I tried looking up other countries methodologies but it appears that will be quite time consuming. This article talks about it a little but it is from months ago.
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Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45695 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:44 pm to
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do nursing homes and hospitals report COVID deaths the same way?


I didn’t look at OP’s link but that specific quote is on every weekly nursing home report
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:44 pm to
You could literally get hit by a bus and it be counted as a COVID death.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:44 pm to
I would guess it will be increased (throw out 2020 since it will be an outlier) over the previous 5 years.

That is not all due to covid though. The increase in 'covid cure' deaths will probably offset any decrease that would be seen by covid taking out people who were going to die anyway.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
10159 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:45 pm to
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No one compared cancer to covid, you magnificent retard


This is brilliant coming from the same crowd that states “people die in car accidents everyday, we don’t stop people from driving cars do we?”.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:46 pm to
how did NOLA get away with no COVID deaths for several days in a row?

You mean of the people that died, for whatever reason, in that 7 day period not one of them tested positive for COVID?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27451 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:46 pm to
You've become a really shitty poster.

Most of the time that indicates home stress. So, I wish you the best.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:47 pm to
Covid heard it better not come down here bullying

In reality strictly talking numbers we should average a death every 2-3 days.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:49 pm
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96017 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:48 pm to
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You mean of the people that died, for whatever reason, in that 7 day period not one of them tested positive for COVID?



Yes. Because everyone in nola has already had it. EBR has only had 14 "covid" deaths in the last 23 days.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10601 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:48 pm to
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Conversely I know older people with those issues and worse that got COVID and lived. You can't say for certain that COVID is the cause simply by its presence.


I can't disagree with you on this. I can, however, at least stomach that more easily as a covid death than someone who died in a car accident.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:48 pm to
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Because everyone in nola has already had it


I haven't had it
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96017 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:49 pm to
it was a general statement.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1774 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:49 pm to
This graph is really all that matters to me.

Now I agree that, ideally, I wouldn’t be lied to about people that died of covid vs WITH it. BUT... at the end of the day, all that really matters is how many died this year vs the typical average of how many usually die in a year. That difference is your number of covid deaths, within a reasonable degree of error.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:53 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:49 pm to
There is no data to back up what you are saying.

Most estimates put NOLA near 30% at best. And that is a stretch.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83605 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:50 pm to
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I didn’t look at OP’s link but that specific quote is on every weekly nursing home report


right

that was my question

the quote is on the nursing home report, so my question was if nursing homes have a different procedure in reporting than hospitals?

I don't work in these fields so I have no idea if nursing homes don't have the capability or turn around times for autopsies as hospitals and such
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96017 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Most estimates put NOLA near 30% at best. And that is a stretch.



well thats right at the herd immunity mark so yes there is data. Not to mention Region 1's stats have been the lowest in the state for 2+ months now.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17890 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

how did NOLA get away with no COVID deaths for several days in a row?

You mean of the people that died, for whatever reason, in that 7 day period not one of them tested positive for COVID?


I would imagine normal daily operations of LDH have been severely affected the past several weeks.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17890 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:52 pm to
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I don't work in these fields so I have no idea if nursing homes don't have the capability or turn around times for autopsies as hospitals and such


This simply doesn’t happen.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10601 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:53 pm to
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I do COVID numbers daily. We are instructed by the federal government to give them a daily count of all hospitalized patients with confirmed COVID and also a total of all confirmed and suspected COVID (meaning they have COViD symptoms but tests still pending). Not all the patients hospitalized because they have COVID. Those federal numbers are also sent to state level.


So it IS a fact that a person in the hospital with a broken leg, with a positive covid test (asymptomatic), is counted as a covid hospitalization. Such bullshite.
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