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Lawyers: how can anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like Kohberger?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:37 am
It seems pretty obvious he was the guy. I was sitting here watching the news speculate on how his defense would try and play it.
It pissed me off a bit. I guess its just a job, but who could/would represent someone who butchered four people?
Any lawyers chime in, but how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?? And how could you put up a defense knowing they are guilty?
It pissed me off a bit. I guess its just a job, but who could/would represent someone who butchered four people?
Any lawyers chime in, but how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?? And how could you put up a defense knowing they are guilty?
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:53 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:39 am to bott18240
I’m sure someone who had a moral opposition to capital punishment could spin it as just trying to make sure he doesn’t get the needle.
But yeah, idk how anyone could do that job.
But yeah, idk how anyone could do that job.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:40 am to bott18240
Money makes people do the strangest shite.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:40 am to bott18240
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Kohberger Defense
It wasn't me....I pinky swear
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:40 am to bott18240
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anyone with a conscience
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lawyers

Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:41 am to bott18240
I'm an armchair lawyer but defense lawyer at heart..
For me, it's about the system as a whole and how it's supposed to work. It's a necessary and very valuable job. Not sure if that view is consistent with actual attorneys, but I wouldn't have issues dealing with it
Would be interesting to hear from those involved in prosecuting also
For me, it's about the system as a whole and how it's supposed to work. It's a necessary and very valuable job. Not sure if that view is consistent with actual attorneys, but I wouldn't have issues dealing with it
Would be interesting to hear from those involved in prosecuting also
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:41 am to bott18240
quote:Repped a dude in California accused of 4 counts 1st degree homicide. My job was to force the State to carry its burden of proof. Nothing more. Dude was eventually convicted and is serving a life sentence. I sleep just fine.
how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:41 am to bott18240
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It seems pretty obvious he was the guy. I was sitting here watching the news speculate on how his defense would try and play it.
It pissed me off a bit. I guess its just a job, but who could/would represent someone who butchered four people?
Any lawyers chime in, but how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?? And how could you put up a defense knowing they are guilty?
The foundation of our legal system is that everyone has the right to legal representation. How do you decide who should get it and who shouldn't?

Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:42 am to bott18240
Innocence project
Defense lawyers are important so dirty or incompetent prosecutors and law enforcement don't put innocent people in jail.
They are there to enusre the prosecution side has indisputable evidence against the accused.
Defense lawyers are important so dirty or incompetent prosecutors and law enforcement don't put innocent people in jail.
They are there to enusre the prosecution side has indisputable evidence against the accused.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:42 am to bott18240
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but who could/would represent someone who butchered four people?
Someone who believes in the Constitution and the rule of law.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:44 am to Epic Cajun
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The foundation of our legal system is that everyone has the right to legal representation. How do you decide who should get it and who shouldn't?
I’m not saying that. I’m saying that with that much evidence and the savage nature of it. How could anyone defend him and look the families in the eye?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:45 am to bott18240
Y’all are right. Everyone deserves a defense. Somehow seeing his face on the news and those 4 kids faces at the same time just pissed me off.
My bad. Stupid post/question
My bad. Stupid post/question
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:47 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:48 am to bott18240
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Any lawyers chime in, but how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?? And how could you put up a defense knowing they are guilty?
Fun fact, John Adams represented the British officer and soldiers who committed the Boston Massacre- and won.
Eta- then became an active member of the revolution, Continental Congress, Ambassador, and later President.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:49 am to bott18240
I don't think it's a stupid question. It's probably something people grapple with every day from a moral perspective. The answer isn't easy or palatable, but necessary.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:50 am to NYNolaguy1
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John Adams
My first thought reading this topic.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:51 am to bott18240
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I’m not saying that. I’m saying that with that much evidence and the savage nature of it. How could anyone defend him and look the families in the eye?
Just make sure to avoid eye contact while cashing the check?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:52 am to bott18240
They will hammer the crime scene and look for ways that those initially on the scene might have messed up in handling evidence and things of that nature
They are gonna really dive into why that girl waited so long to call
They will try and get him off on a technicality
Who knows, they may criticize the troopers for pulling him over twice on his way to PA driving home
It's more on the prosecution to not screw this up and give the defense a window
Everyone knows OJ did it but the prosecution gave OJ his freedom
They are gonna really dive into why that girl waited so long to call
They will try and get him off on a technicality
Who knows, they may criticize the troopers for pulling him over twice on his way to PA driving home
It's more on the prosecution to not screw this up and give the defense a window
Everyone knows OJ did it but the prosecution gave OJ his freedom
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:58 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:52 am to bott18240
My favorite are Law Enforcement people who make the blanket statement "I hate defense attorneys!" I always answer that with "Why? They make you do your job?"
The facts and the evidence are indisputable. It's on the police and the DA to gather those things and present the case. If they frick up, that's on them. Not on the defense attorney for pointing it out. The defense attorney isn't out there creating evidence to get the client off.
The facts and the evidence are indisputable. It's on the police and the DA to gather those things and present the case. If they frick up, that's on them. Not on the defense attorney for pointing it out. The defense attorney isn't out there creating evidence to get the client off.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:52 am to Ingeniero
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It's probably something people grapple with every day from a moral perspective. The answer isn't easy or palatable, but necessary.
This. Constitution guaranteed everyone the right to a fair trial. Being a family member of one of the victims would really make it hard to go through though.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:52 am to bott18240
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Any lawyers chime in, but how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?? And how could you put up a defense knowing they are guilty?
Well by doing your job competently you can help minimize the guilty verdict getting overturned because of some procedural bullshite or ineffective assistance of counsel.
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