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Lawyers: how can anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like Kohberger?

Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:37 am
Posted by bott18240
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
589 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:37 am
It seems pretty obvious he was the guy. I was sitting here watching the news speculate on how his defense would try and play it.

It pissed me off a bit. I guess its just a job, but who could/would represent someone who butchered four people?

Any lawyers chime in, but how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?? And how could you put up a defense knowing they are guilty?
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:53 am
Posted by LootieandtheBlowfish
Houston/BR
Member since Aug 2021
695 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:39 am to
I’m sure someone who had a moral opposition to capital punishment could spin it as just trying to make sure he doesn’t get the needle.

But yeah, idk how anyone could do that job.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2802 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:40 am to
Money makes people do the strangest shite.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68154 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:40 am to
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Kohberger Defense

It wasn't me....I pinky swear
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8498 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:40 am to
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anyone with a conscience
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lawyers

Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:41 am to
I'm an armchair lawyer but defense lawyer at heart..

For me, it's about the system as a whole and how it's supposed to work. It's a necessary and very valuable job. Not sure if that view is consistent with actual attorneys, but I wouldn't have issues dealing with it

Would be interesting to hear from those involved in prosecuting also
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
5007 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:41 am to
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how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?
Repped a dude in California accused of 4 counts 1st degree homicide. My job was to force the State to carry its burden of proof. Nothing more. Dude was eventually convicted and is serving a life sentence. I sleep just fine.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35239 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:41 am to
quote:

It seems pretty obvious he was the guy. I was sitting here watching the news speculate on how his defense would try and play it.

It pissed me off a bit. I guess its just a job, but who could/would represent someone who butchered four people?

Any lawyers chime in, but how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?? And how could you put up a defense knowing they are guilty?

The foundation of our legal system is that everyone has the right to legal representation. How do you decide who should get it and who shouldn't?
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
1804 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:42 am to
Innocence project

Defense lawyers are important so dirty or incompetent prosecutors and law enforcement don't put innocent people in jail.

They are there to enusre the prosecution side has indisputable evidence against the accused.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6875 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:42 am to
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but who could/would represent someone who butchered four people?


Someone who believes in the Constitution and the rule of law.
Posted by bott18240
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
589 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:44 am to
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The foundation of our legal system is that everyone has the right to legal representation. How do you decide who should get it and who shouldn't?


I’m not saying that. I’m saying that with that much evidence and the savage nature of it. How could anyone defend him and look the families in the eye?
Posted by bott18240
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
589 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:45 am to
Y’all are right. Everyone deserves a defense. Somehow seeing his face on the news and those 4 kids faces at the same time just pissed me off.

My bad. Stupid post/question
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:47 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21427 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:48 am to
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Any lawyers chime in, but how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?? And how could you put up a defense knowing they are guilty?


Fun fact, John Adams represented the British officer and soldiers who committed the Boston Massacre- and won.

Eta- then became an active member of the revolution, Continental Congress, Ambassador, and later President.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:51 am
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20258 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:49 am to
I don't think it's a stupid question. It's probably something people grapple with every day from a moral perspective. The answer isn't easy or palatable, but necessary.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7263 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:50 am to
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John Adams


My first thought reading this topic.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21143 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:51 am to
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I’m not saying that. I’m saying that with that much evidence and the savage nature of it. How could anyone defend him and look the families in the eye?


Just make sure to avoid eye contact while cashing the check?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50536 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:52 am to
They will hammer the crime scene and look for ways that those initially on the scene might have messed up in handling evidence and things of that nature

They are gonna really dive into why that girl waited so long to call

They will try and get him off on a technicality
Who knows, they may criticize the troopers for pulling him over twice on his way to PA driving home

It's more on the prosecution to not screw this up and give the defense a window
Everyone knows OJ did it but the prosecution gave OJ his freedom
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:58 am
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19523 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:52 am to
My favorite are Law Enforcement people who make the blanket statement "I hate defense attorneys!" I always answer that with "Why? They make you do your job?"

The facts and the evidence are indisputable. It's on the police and the DA to gather those things and present the case. If they frick up, that's on them. Not on the defense attorney for pointing it out. The defense attorney isn't out there creating evidence to get the client off.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18201 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:52 am to
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It's probably something people grapple with every day from a moral perspective. The answer isn't easy or palatable, but necessary.


This. Constitution guaranteed everyone the right to a fair trial. Being a family member of one of the victims would really make it hard to go through though.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34175 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:52 am to
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Any lawyers chime in, but how could anyone with a conscience put work into helping someone like this?? And how could you put up a defense knowing they are guilty?

Well by doing your job competently you can help minimize the guilty verdict getting overturned because of some procedural bullshite or ineffective assistance of counsel.
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