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re: Laura - President Trump visits Lake Charles, Louisiana for Hurricane Response Update

Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:19 pm to
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Did you see their tower? Its folded in half.


Yep. Had a bunch of trucks there yesterday, looked like they’re trying to get something temporary put in.
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:25 pm to
Wow. Where did they go? Another facility or with their families??

How are you and your family?
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:29 pm to
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Same here. Give it another week mods.

Upvote. I requested it on help board.
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:30 pm to
fyi for those in need of roofing — guy whos done like 600 roofs in the LC area in the past 18 months said on talk radio today that shingles were already in short supply before this.

His rec was to wait it out — said a tarp is fine but he recommended using (stout hopefully will clarify) some synthetic material that would last 6 months if not more. He said it would provide necessary protection.

Just thought I’d pass that along — I’ll see if I can find the guy and his rec exactly.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:34 pm to
Roofs after Rita were stupid high but ins covered. FEMA blue tarps were pretty heavy duty. My FIL picked up about 5 rolls of that shite after it was all said and done just in case. That’s long gone. Gonna get an eRly start in the morning to beat this heat. Good to see some stores opening. Albertsons and Kroger in LC and Sulphur
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

Wow. Where did they go? Another facility or with their families??

How are you and your family?


Yes, sister facility in Mississippi with medical transports in sister facility in Lafayette. Some were picked up by family but they’re quickly realizing how much work it is and bringing them back to Lafayette.

We’re making it. My house will be completely gutted this week. I’m staying here doing cleanup and getting water restoration, roofer, and contractors squared away. Wife and baby in Mississippi but will head to BR later this week and I’ll eventually go meet them. Looking for rentals in Lafayette as are several friends/family. Doesn’t sound like LCH will be habitable for several months. I’ll work from Lafayette once our house stuff is rolling. Wife works at Memorial, no word on when she’ll go back.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:38 pm to
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fyi for those in need of roofing — guy whos done like 600 roofs in the LC area in the past 18 months said on talk radio today that shingles were already in short supply before this.

His rec was to wait it out — said a tarp is fine but he recommended using (stout hopefully will clarify) some synthetic material that would last 6 months if not more. He said it would provide necessary protection.

Just thought I’d pass that along — I’ll see if I can find the guy and his rec exactly.


Family contact drove in today from I assume NOLA. Meeting with him tomorrow. If promising, I’ll share his contact info with his permission.

I noticed many of the newer roofs in Sulphur did very well. Can’t help but feel sorry for those that had to go through all the hailstorm shite and now this.
Posted by LSUEnvy
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:43 pm to
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noticed many of the newer roofs in Sulphur did very well

Yeah it’s odd. One house ripped to shreds and 3 houses down just a few shingles missing. Damn little tornados
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:44 pm to
Amos is your facility damaged or is water/electricity the issue??
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:46 pm to
Any luck with a rental? People here may know people there .. wish I could help with that quickly but I can look.

My brother is still working ER with the military at Memorial.

(Carencro, Crowley might be options as well to st least search in)
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 8:49 pm
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
12044 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:47 pm to
Hidin’ Biden doesn’t give a shite about the people of Louisiana because his handlers in the Democrat Party already know that Trump is winning Louisiana in a landslide victory. That’s why Hidin’ Biden won’t come out.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8447 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:47 pm to
Boy this not being stickied anymore. What was it 5 days ago the storm made landfall? This is worthwhile to get relief efforts on the forefront.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:49 pm to
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Amos is your facility damaged or is water/electricity the issue??


Both. Severe wind and water damage.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:51 pm to
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One house ripped to shreds and 3 houses down just a few shingles missing. Damn little tornados


Mesovorticies. They aren't really tornados but the effect is generally the same.

Expected with such a strong storm and one at least holding steady in strength at landfall. I figure you're seeing patterns like this all over the LC area. Some smaller areas with substantial damage and just moderate damage around it.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:51 pm to
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Any luck with a rental? People here may know people there .. wish I could help with that quickly but I can look.

My brother is still working ER with the military at Memorial.

(Carencro, Crowley might be options as well to st least search in)


I got cold feet on the place my wife picked out yesterday and it was fully booked today. The price gouging is ridiculous. My brother had to sign a year lease on a house today to secure it.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:52 pm to
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some synthetic material that would last 6 months if not more. He said it would provide necessary protection.


Ice and water shield
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:03 pm to
Amos look on Fb marketplace. There’s a place in Maurice — o can only see outside pic but Maurice is safe.
2:2 $1300. I can see pic actually and it looks redone.

3/2 in Duson; $900/month

Sign up for fb even if just for this. Don’t wait — you can do anything for a short time. And no hate price gouging. I get supply and demand but who takes advantage of people???
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 9:08 pm
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14312 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:05 pm to
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One house ripped to shreds and 3 houses down just a few shingles missing. Damn little tornados


quote:

Eyewall mesovortices

Eyewall mesovortices are small scale rotational features found in the eyewalls of intense tropical cyclones. They are similar, in principle, to small "suction vortices" often observed in multiple-vortex tornadoes.[citation needed] In these vortices, wind speed can be up to 10% higher than in the rest of the eyewall. Eyewall mesovortices are most common during periods of intensification in tropical cyclones.

Eyewall mesovortices often exhibit unusual behavior in tropical cyclones. They usually revolve around the low pressure center, but sometimes they remain stationary. Eyewall mesovortices have even been documented to cross the eye of a storm. These phenomena have been documented observationally,[2] experimentally,[4] and theoretically.[5]

Eyewall mesovortices are a significant factor in the formation of tornadoes after tropical cyclone landfall. Mesovortices can spawn rotation in individual thunderstorms (a mesocyclone), which leads to tornadic activity. At landfall, friction is generated between the circulation of the tropical cyclone and land. This can allow the mesovortices to descend to the surface, causing large outbreaks of tornadoes.

On 15 September 1989, during observations for Hurricane Hugo, Hunter NOAA42 accidentally flew through an eyewall mesovortex measuring 320 km/h (200 mph) and experienced crippling G-forces of +5.8Gs and -3.7Gs. The winds ripped off the propeller de-icing boot and pushed the flight down to a perilous 1000 ft above sea level. The ruggedized Lockheed WP-3D Orion was only designed for a maximum of +3.5Gs and -1G.


LINK

Where these stronger wind bursts hit and the exposure of a structure to the wind can make a big difference in damage sustained. A house by itself on a large lot or piece of property without large trees or other houses to block the wind can be more damaged than another house that is 'blocked' by trees and other houses.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:09 pm to
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A house by itself on a large lot or piece of property without large trees or other houses to block the wind can be more damaged than another house that is 'blocked' by trees and other houses.


Noticed a lot of this today. A lot of the N/S roads, especially 4 lane, made wind corridors that tore the faces off nearly every building. Several taller homes in my dads neighborhood, some 3 stories, had chimneys blown over. Insane.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14312 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:10 pm to
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Mesovorticies. They aren't really tornados but the effect is generally the same.

Expected with such a strong storm and one at least holding steady in strength at landfall. I figure you're seeing patterns like this all over the LC area. Some smaller areas with substantial damage and just moderate damage around it.


Duke, I knew you could explain it better than all the details in that Wiki article I posted at about the same time. There are many variables that determine the amount of damage a particular structure will receive. Mesovortices, exposure to unblocked wind, quality of construction and materials are just some. Regardless, anything that got hit with the 130+ mph gusts was going to sustain some significant damage.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 9:14 pm
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