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re: Laura - President Trump visits Lake Charles, Louisiana for Hurricane Response Update

Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:38 am to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:38 am to
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Does earlier organization play into it becoming a stronger storm or is it really a crap shoot?


The earlier it organizes, the more time it will have to take advantage of the conditions over the Gulf. So yeah, a stronger and more organized storm as it exits Cuba would yield a stronger system down the line.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78501 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:47 am to
Any idea on projections if the organization shifts south like was posted?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32137 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:50 am to
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The earlier it organizes, the more time it will have to take advantage of the conditions over the Gulf. So yeah, a stronger and more organized storm as it exits Cuba would yield a stronger system down the line.



I understand this but the steering currents still would potentially steer it as the models suggest, no?


I've also seen outliers saying what's left of Marco could settle down in the gulf near Brownsville or possibly not that far south but given the rotation of these systems, that rotation could potentially drive it Laura more north, instead of heading further to the west. I'm just trying to understand why the NHC had Laura heading toward Houston earlier this morning, then the track shifted east to Holly Beach/Cameron, to now even more east. Plus it isn't scheduled to make a landfall for another 2 days. I appreciate your info. I understand no track is set in stone but after going through 3 cat 3s in Florida, I started studying what steers these systems but with this being two, forecast to make landfall within days of each other, it's hard to pinpoint it down. If you get one wrong, it's easy to get the other one wrong. Even Marco's track is still uncertain. It's pretty close to what I think it'll be but it's not definitive. I understand about the high pressure that's supposed to drive Laura west but like I said, they have now changed those tracks. What's your take on that? Really asking.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:54 am to
It's more open water to work with, so it should allow greater organization. A farther south launch and more organized system would tend to be farther west by the end.

I'm still in wait and see mode (more like see what it looks like in the morning) on any potential southern center moves.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:07 am to
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I understand about the high pressure that's supposed to drive Laura west but like I said, they have now changed those tracks. What's your take on that?


You sort of answer your own question earlier. The track is really uncertain because of

A) Questions of organization and location coming into the Gulf.

B) Exact shape of the ridge and how far it pushes in. (This won't make for huge changes but little differences can yield huge impacts for individual communities)

C) Possible Marco leftover interactions

It's complex to the point there's still wide range of possible outcomes. To the point those with far more understanding and experience than I have aren't able to really nail it down.

The NHC path is basically just following their consensus model (basically a weighted average of all the good models' paths). The problem is the envelope of possibilities is so wide still that each run of a model just shows you one of the possible outcomes.

So the NHC path has jumped around some but in reality nothing has changed. New Orleans is still a remote possibility. Corpus Christi is still a remote possibility.

The good thing is Marco is falling apart tonight and should follow the projected path well as a weak TS/TD and eventually an open low that moves west.

Still opens the door for some weird interactions, but that's just one of the questions we still need to answer.

Which is frustrating with a likely major hurricane strike just a few days out and major population centers in the potential path.
Posted by Lion4Life
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2012
424 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:10 am to
Euro trended back west at the 00z run, back to TX/LA border
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:12 am to
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Euro trended back west at the 00z run, back to TX/LA border



Looks like the EURO jumped (back) on the SWLA train.

Edit: looking at another forum, it looks like this is first time ICON, GFS, CMC, and now the EURO have seemed to have some agreement on Laura's projected path. I guess we'll see if it holds.
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 1:14 am
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:12 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32137 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:14 am to
quote:

Still opens the door for some weird interactions, but that's just one of the questions we still need to answer.

Which is frustrating with a likely major hurricane strike just a few days out and major population centers in the potential path.



Thank you. That was my take on it as well. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't completely wrong with my thinking on this. Appreciate your input.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11864 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:14 am to
quote:

Euro trended back west at the 00z run, back to TX/LA border


Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32137 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 1:16 am to
quote:

Euro trended back west at the 00z run


The Euro I saw had it more east than the current track. Closer to Morgan City or Houma.


Was I looking at something different? Not trying to be condescending or anything. I'm really asking.

The GFS I saw had it more west but still not all the way to the TX/LA border. At least not what I saw at 10.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:04 am to
Out In Iowa.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:33 am to
It’s bullshite like that which is EXACTLY why I got a standby generator, a few years ago.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88028 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:51 am to
It looks like Marco took a detour to Florida.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:02 am to


Shift back over LC with the latest update.
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7801 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:04 am to
Hate that for the LC folks but man I want this to keep up. The 10pm has me shitting bricks.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:14 am to
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The GFS and ECMWF models, along with the statistical and corrected-consensus models, only strengthen the cyclone to a peak intensity around 75 kt. In contrast, the HRWF and HMON models bring Laura to major hurricane strength by 60 hours. Given the very favorable environmental conditions of high SSTs near 31 deg C and low vertical shear values less than 10 kt after 24-36 hours, subsequent intensity forecasts might have to trend more toward the regional models. But for now, the official intensity forecast will continue to follow a blend of the regional and global model intensity forecasts, and lies at the high-end of the intensity guidance at 60 and 72 hours.


quote:

INIT 24/0900Z 20.8N 78.9W 55 KT 65 MPH
12H 24/1800Z 21.7N 81.5W 55 KT 65 MPH
24H 25/0600Z 22.9N 84.6W 60 KT 70 MPH
36H 25/1800Z 24.5N 87.6W 65 KT 75 MPH
48H 26/0600Z 26.1N 90.2W 75 KT 85 MPH
60H 26/1800Z 28.0N 92.3W 85 KT 100 MPH
72H 27/0600Z 29.8N 93.3W 90 KT 105 MPH
96H 28/0600Z 35.4N 91.5W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
120H 29/0600Z 37.6N 82.1W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 4:16 am
Posted by lsufan4lifeMiles
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
746 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:35 am to


Marco looks to be a rain maker along the coast.
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 4:37 am
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95034 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:35 am to
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72H 27/0600Z 29.8N 93.3W 90 KT 105 MPH




Right at the mouth of Big Lake
Posted by SW2SCLA
We all float down here
Member since Feb 2009
23071 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:42 am to
Damn it
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