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re: Laura - President Trump visits Lake Charles, Louisiana for Hurricane Response Update

Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:27 pm to
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stories about Rita and thinks it was worse than Katrina based on what he saw.
I was helping get plants back up east of N.O. a week after Katrina. I brought some stuff to my cousin in Moss Bluff right after Rita and checked on others over by Vinton. My vote goes to N.O. east of the city all the way to the state line and beyond. I hear Gulfport was very torn up by Katrina. .
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Gustav gives me PTSD when I think about it
A tree fell through our roof and missed my wife by about 6 ft. I don't get PTSD though.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21551 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:27 pm to
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So now wait and see if we are seeing a east trend or if we have another small windshield wiper effect and a correction to the west in the morning


Models tonight are particularly worthless and all we can do is look at the ensemble spread from 18z and through the night. However, I don't expect we will see much change in the ensembles - a more organized Laura entering the Gulf will strengthen quicker and take a more western track and less organized will take a more eastern track.

If people want to track something tonight then watch Laura trek across or just South of Cuba and that will tell you more about what will happen down the road than any of the operational model runs from tonight.

There is still a bit of northerly shear over the system being induced by a thinning PVS streamer (yellow area over the top of Laura). Also, probably some from the outflow from the convection associated with Marco and the upper level trough. That may also be nudging the ridge over the top stronger as well.



The combo of all of that has favored intense convection to the south of the forecast track and we have seen the LLC continually being tugged south towards that deeper convection.

Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:28 pm to
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Is there another update at midnight?


Intensity every three hours. So 1 am.

Track is every six hours. 4, 10, 4, 10
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:28 pm to
I don't work for them. I have no idea. I'm just telling you what I was told earlier by someone who works with Entergy. He said they reduced crew sizes and that it would slow restoration and that they were talking if it was bad enough tomorrow they wouldn't push for the majority of customers on until after a second landfall from Laura if it hits. They would obviously work on what they could between but it would be slower and they have a wind limit they can work in due to safety.

I did get a call from Entergy earlier today that even explicitly said for my area the restoration times would be slower so he wasn't lying.
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Lion4Life
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2012
424 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:30 pm to
It’s amazing how similar Laura track will be to what Hurricane Lili was in 2002.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:32 pm to
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If people want to track something tonight then watch Laura trek across or just South of Cuba and that will tell you more about what will happen down the road than any of the operational model runs from tonight.


Yup.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78501 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:35 pm to
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I was helping get plants back up east of N.O. a week after Katrina.


As in Mississippi?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21551 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:37 pm to
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Laura's COC?




Without recon this is purely speculation, that is probably the mid-level circulation. The LLC appears to be rolling through Manzanillo. It wouldn't be surprising to see the LLC rotate south under the MLC over the next few hours, given how intense convection is down there.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84335 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:43 pm to
@cyclonicwx
Recent (~1.5 hours old) ASCAT pass over #Laura shows an LLC south of Cuba's southern coast. If it manages to become dominant which seems plausible given the convection further south, it means little further land interaction, & earlier organization, though NE shear will continue



This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 12:12 am
Posted by BigHoss
Offshore
Member since Apr 2010
3366 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:47 pm to
Can we fly recon flights into storms around Cuba?
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105323 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:51 pm to
Several models trending back west.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95034 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:59 pm to
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Several models trending back west.


Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21551 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:02 am to
Posted by 200MPHCOBRA
Member since Nov 2016
516 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:07 am to
I watched Blackhawks and Chinooks dropping huge sandbags for hours, orbiting out over the lake in a continuous circle, probably ten choppers total, picking them up on the Jefferson parish side, Chinooks dropping three at a time in the break in the 17th street canal levee and the lake pouring in just wash them away in seconds, it was about effective as a flea biting an elephant on the arse. And that was just one of the levee breaks. No pumps in the world were going to handle that.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37947 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:07 am to
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As in Land Mass?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:17 am to
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He said they reduced crew sizes and that it would slow restoration and that they were talking if it was bad enough tomorrow they wouldn't push for the majority of customers on until after a second landfall from Laura if it hits.


You're getting downvoted to hell but, from a business and safety perspective, this actually makes sense.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21551 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:21 am to
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@cyclonicwx
Recent (~1.5 hours old) ASCAT pass over #Laura shows an LLC south of Cuba's southern coast. If it manages to become dominant which seems plausible given the convection further south, it means little further land interaction, & earlier organization, though NE shear will continue






I'm not sure about the accuracy of ASCAT with that much land around but it wouldn't be surprising. However, look how far off that would be of even the ensembles.

Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84335 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:23 am to
Yeah, that would mean you'd throw them out. I'd assume we'd get much better modeling and more consensus after that.

But it'd also mean Laura is going to be quite the problem.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66119 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:27 am to
They would have done better dropping them in an arch formation out in the canal. Then seal off the arch. They were dropping them in the strongest current
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 12:28 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78501 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 12:31 am to
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& earlier organization, though NE shear will continue


Duke had said something about a stronger storm would likely push farther west, a weaker stay east.

Does earlier organization play into it becoming a stronger storm or is it really a crap shoot?
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