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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:17 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:17 pm to Obtuse1
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I figure anyone that is an American and roots for Russia when they invade a sovereign country or any other time is a US hating POS. That's OK you do you brought to you by American freedoms.
My enemies are here, in this country.
They’re not in Russia.
And we did this stupidity to ourselves. It’s the inevitable end result of NATO expansion.
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Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:17 pm to FredBear
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I doubt any Russian military progress in Ukraine has any particular consequences to America at all
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:19 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:i would argue russia literally stealing crimea from ukraine probably played a bigger role in pushing ukraine to want integration with the west but what do i know
And we did this stupidity to ourselves. It’s the inevitable end result of NATO expansion.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:19 pm to Joshjrn
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I remember when "conservatives" were rightly indignant over the media mocking the Republican candidate for president because he said that Russia was our greatest geo-political rival.
And I remember when liberals claimed they were stupid to do so. I don't think there is a point here either way
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:20 pm to FredBear
Putin is are ally
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:21 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:
My enemies are here, in this country.
They’re not in Russia.
And we did this stupidity to ourselves. It’s the inevitable end result of NATO expansion.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:23 pm to FredBear
You might want to travel/spend some time outside the southeastern United States. Maybe even have one conversation or thought that doesn’t revolve around a vast MSM liberal conspiracy. It’s a big world out there.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:33 pm to FredBear
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And I remember when liberals claimed they were stupid to do so. I don't think there is a point here either way
The point is that liberals have gone on record as saying they were wrong. Hell, I read a NYT op ed at one point apologizing to Romney.
On the other hand, some conservatives are changing their position just to be contrarian. But if you’re comfortable with modeling your positions on that of the stereotypical petulant toddler who simply enjoys saying no, by all means.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:36 pm to Lima Whiskey
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My enemies are here, in this country.
Cribbing Muhammad Ali?
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:38 pm to Lakeboy7
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Don’t be a pussy
I'm drunk and thought this was the Rant and the sticked thread was the baseball game thread
Or yeah I posted something edgy and edited it 1 minute after I posted. Have you ever seen me post before
I would have left something edgy up. ETA: Stupid ****
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:43 pm to Lima Whiskey
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And we did this stupidity to ourselves. It’s the inevitable end result of NATO expansion.
There needs to be a Red Dawn remake. As Russians are parachuting in and mowing down civilians, Poli Board posters are standing around like:
“See! I told you this would happen! This is all Soros & Biden’s fau-“ (dies of sniper fire)
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:43 pm to Joshjrn
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The point is that liberals have gone on record as saying they were wrong. Hell, I read a NYT op ed at one point apologizing to Romney.
It's not particularly hard or helpful to apologize after the damage has been done.
The rest of your post shows some of you guys are taking this personally when my problem is not with you or your stance on this, my issue is no one yet has given me a concise answer as to why I am beholden to have any allegiance to Ukraine at all.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:49 pm to FredBear
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my issue is no one yet has given me a concise answer as to why I am beholden to have any allegiance to Ukraine at all.
You shouldn’t have any allegiance to Ukraine in a vacuum. You should be against Russian geo-political aggression. You should also be against Chinese geo-political aggression, on a related subject. So whether it’s Ukraine, or Taiwan, or anywhere else those nations act as belligerents, if you have the best interest of the United States in mind, you should be pulling for the target of that aggression.
If you disagree, I would be curious to hear why.
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:01 pm to Joshjrn
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You shouldn’t have any allegiance to Ukraine in a vacuum. You should be against [quote]You shouldn’t have any allegiance to Ukraine in a vacuum. You should be against Russian geo-political aggression. You should also be against Chinese geo-political aggression, on a related subject. So whether it’s Ukraine, or Taiwan, or anywhere else those nations act as belligerents, if you have the best interest of the United States in mind, you should be pulling for the target of that aggression.
If you disagree, I would be curious to hear why.
I'm not sure whether or not Russia prevails against Ukraine affects us that much at all but I appreciate the direct response. I don't totally agree with it but I don't completely reject it either
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:07 pm to FredBear
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I'm not sure whether or not Russia prevails against Ukraine affects us that much at all but I appreciate the direct response. I don't totally agree with it but I don't completely reject it either
Ukraine is rich with natural resources, is one of the major breadbaskets of Europe, and has significant warm water ports. Russia controlling that territory makes Russia stronger. History has shown that a strong Russia is a belligerent Russia. And a belligerent Russia is not beneficial to the interests of the United States.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:12 pm to FredBear
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My question would be as a person who has lived in the Southeastern United States my entire life what basis is there for me to have any allegiance to Ukraine?
Maybe because Ukraine isn’t Russia, what am I missing with that line of thinking? I was born in 80 and Russia was to never be trusted, when did that change, especially for people that are in my demographic and usually have pretty similar political views?
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:14 pm to Joshjrn
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You shouldn’t have any allegiance to Ukraine in a vacuum. You should be against Russian geo-political aggression. You should also be against Chinese geo-political aggression, on a related subject. So whether it’s Ukraine, or Taiwan, or anywhere else those nations act as belligerents, if you have the best interest of the United States in mind, you should be pulling for the target of that aggression.
If you disagree, I would be curious to hear why.
Points well taken, however the drive-by shite poster SDVTiger is everything the opposite of what you just posted.
Going on a month and SDV is still banned
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:18 pm to Breauxsif
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SDVTiger
Because I stay away from the PT these days, I haven’t interacted with him in a while, but I remember thinking that he didn’t seem ok
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:21 pm to gizmothepug
quote:the moment the corrupt, dishonest, and crooked media stole an election to allow the dictator in chief to illegally defeat the god emperor
I was born in 80 and Russia was to never be trusted, when did that change, especially for people that are in my demographic and usually have pretty similar political views?
putin recognizes this and wants to uncover all of the crooked dealings that happened in ukraine post 2014 and wants to save the western world by exposing biden, our corrupt media, and reestablish trump who is the only man who can save the united states and the world
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