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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/1/22 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 7:30 pm to
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I dunno, but the Romanians (with adult supervision) can handle that.


You would think the ISW suggestion would invite Moldova to retake its own territory with or maybe without Romanian help which would make it yet another dumb tactical error by the Russians.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 8:34 pm to


Russia may need a general mobilization just to guard all their bridges.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 9:16 pm to
Russia will blame us for giving them the ability to do that.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:18 pm to
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At the risk of detailing the thread even further, there’s an argument that we were never meant to have a standing army.




The ones who make that argument tend to ignore or try to glance over the fact that Washington sent Troops to put down a rebellion.



There's idealistic beliefs, and then there's realism. No Country could maintain or become what our country has and is without a strong Federal military.

quote:

“America does not go abroad in search of monsters to slay.”




And this was a response to requests for support against Napoleon. He was not a threat to the US, therefore we would not get involved in a fight against him or choose to not carry on diplomatic relations with him just because someone else told us he was bad and we should trust them.

This post was edited on 5/1/22 at 11:19 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:27 pm to
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then say regional military power

Because in regards to our general position within the global community, we were objectively a major power at that point in time and arguably the strongest country in the world




Both of these reasons are exactly why the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor.


We were weak militarily, but strong enough Globally in every other aspect to be a threat to their goals.

They believed they would completely cripple us militarily with that attack and there'd be no one to stand against their might.

It was possibly the greatest miscalculation in history.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:34 pm to
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"I'm such a baby 'cause the dolphins make me cry"





Ok...

Dolphins, seals, and now we're bringing Blowfish into this?


How many governmentally-trained aquatic killers are out there?
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 4:06 am
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:53 pm to
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In WW1, Imperial Russia sent men into battle without guns. Soldiers were told to pick up weapons when their comrades fell.



The Soviets did the same thing in WW2 at Stalingrad.



The difference this time is: They are the invading army, and it's not winter.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:41 am to
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Both of these reasons are exactly why the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor.

It was possibly the greatest miscalculation in history.
Germany attacking the Soviet Union less than six months previously is in the discussion.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:48 am to
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They believed they would completely cripple us militarily with that attack and there'd be no one to stand against their might.

It was possibly the greatest miscalculation in history.


The Japanese were pessimistic about their chances. They went to war because of national honor.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105621 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 3:06 am to
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Germany attacking the Soviet Union less than six months previously is in the discussion.






It was core Nazi doctrine since Mein Kampf, and the theoretical basis for it goes back to the mid 19th century writings of German ethno-nationalists. It was who they were. They couldn't not do it.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 3:55 am to
Russian Oligarch and bank boss says Putin must hang for his crimes!

LINK
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:09 am to
The initial phase of Russias attack in the east is done, it’s been absorbed and the counter is coming. The stuff in Odessa is diversionary, in spite of what is coming out of Russia the next week is significant to both sides. The last 48 hrs with the numbers Ukraine are stacking up are indicative of how this war will unfold from here out, the poster who spoke to the 155 howitzers arrival is correct and this will accelerate the conclusion of this war in conjunction with the jets that are arriving. Artillery attack range advantage for the 155 is .2 kms to a half a km. So Russian artillery will fall short whereas Ukrainian artillery will tuck in on target. My sources for this information are related to my time as a protocol officer for the Czech Govt back in the late 90s in ministry of industry and trade (focused on Ukraine and Russia) and defence working on EU and NATO accession.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 4:10 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:15 am to
Dude

The Russians are using a small portion of their deployed forces in the East right now.

They haven’t started their second offensive yet.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36553 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:21 am to
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The Japanese were pessimistic about their chances. They went to war because of national honor.



Huh?




The only Japanese figure who showed pessimism about Pearl HArbor was the Admiral of the attacking Fleet.



Hence his famous response to his subordinates who were celebrating the successful attack, when they asked him why he wasn't celebrating:

I fear all we've accomplished is to awaken a sleeping dragon.



The Japanese Government and Military didn't go to war for National Honor. They went to war for conquest and an Empire.

They continued the war for national honor.

And that was only the case after a few years when they realised that America could continue to rapidly produce and replace lost units.

And then they showed their real stubbornness in national honor after the bombs were dropped.



But to claim that the Japanese were pessimistic about their chances of winning a war in December of 1941 is ridiculous. They had already conquered so many other armies without breaking a sweat by that point, and went to Hawaii to cripple the only other Navy in the Pacific, a Navy that was small and outdated, with no battle experience.

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36553 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:22 am to
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The Russians are using a small portion of their deployed forces in the East right now.




Probably because that's the only portion of their forces that hasn't gone AWOL.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36553 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:25 am to
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My sources for this information are related to my time as a protocol officer for the Czech Govt back in the late 90s in ministry of industry and trade (focused on Ukraine and Russia) and defence working on EU and NATO accession.






Before I put all my trust in you, I think I'm going to have to see who Vito's sources are.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:29 am to
I get that this place is fricking retarded but being called the Q of this thread takes the cake. My friends especially in Russia are in all actuality in a precarious position. The fact that they take a risk at all astounds me.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36553 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:32 am to
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Germany attacking the Soviet Union less than six months previously is in the discussion.






This was actually the right move by Germany. Just the wrong time.

They should have either waited until England fell, or abandoned the English Front to focus on the Eastern Front.

Hitler attacked the Soviets before the Soviets could do the same to him or gain more territory he wanted.

If Hitler would have just focused on the Continent, he may have been able to take Moscow and Russia before the Americans and English could threaten the Western Theater with Invasion.

He tried to divide his forces when he didn't have to.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36553 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:35 am to
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I get that this place is fricking retarded but being called the Q of this thread takes the cake.



First off...


An OTer did not call you that. A Politard managed to escape the pen and find his way here to call you that.

And I've been busy at work, so just got caught up on the thread, and the two or three tards who made that claim all have less than 1000 posts, so... either alters or bots.


Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:41 am to
Well that’s reassuring. I was hoping that was the case (I’ve got three posts total on politard board from 5 years ago) and I did ask the aforementioned retard to read back through my post history on this thread so I didn’t have to keep reexplaining. Plus I figured with Cents and I being the only two posters on this thread that have actually set foot in Ukraine and perhaps I’m the only one to visit Russia I might have something to add…
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