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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/19/22 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 6:35 pm to
Isn’t that normal?
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 6:39 pm to
I think more and more this is just about grabbing natural resources. This war has made it obvious that you can have a poor conventional army, but as long as there are nukes I play, no one will be invading you.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 6:46 pm to
You think US and Russia spent some much on Afghanistan for nothing? That’s all it’s about. They don’t gaf about the wheat fields.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 6:54 pm to
Russia was concerned Afghans would invade them?
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:04 pm to
Place is very rich in rare metals.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:05 pm to
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Isn’t that normal?


Yes, in addition there’s a bolt hole that’s half way stripped but you can get a somewhat tight fit with the stud turned exactly 37.4 degrees past first resistance, and you rationalized that it will be ok since you “aren’t going to put anything heavy on that shelf anyway”.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:35 pm to
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You think US and Russia spent some much on Afghanistan for nothing?


What did we get natural resources wise from Afghanistan? Which companies made the money off of it other than the weapons manufacturers of course
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:44 pm to
After reading reports from both sides I figured out who the Nazis are.





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Sergiy Taruta - Sergiy Taruta 43 min ...

TEPMIHOBO!! !!!!

Russian Nazis dropped a powerful bomb on a hospital near Azovstal. According to my information, there are about 300 people under the rubble - among them children.

Defenders were wounded in the surviving part of the hospital and Mariupol residents with children hid. Because there is nowhere else to hide in the destroyed city !!

There are no words. On the eve of the SBU laid out an intercepted conversation of one of the Russian orcs, in which it was said that the "Azovstal" will drop three-ton bombs.

- Can you imagine what kind of explosion there will be? But what about the peaceful ones? - perepitue woman's voice. - Order: << level with the ground, ”- the official orc. - Who are peaceful? Only patriots and highly intelligent remained.

To "very smart" - these are the children in the hospital in the area of ??"Azovstal", on which you dropped the bomb? For being Ukrainian? Killers.

Stop the genocide in Mariupol!


Reminds me of us where everyone on the other side is a fricking __________!

Eta:

I'm being down voted by Nazis! Someone hold me.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 8:09 pm
Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:50 pm to
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It seems far more likely that the axis of this war has nothing to do with Nazi ideology, and has more to do with re-establishing Soviet era defense strategy, which was to ensure a ring of puppet states around mother Russia to keep Moscow safe.


Boom....gets it
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:51 pm to
Nothing to my knowledge. But that doesn’t negate the fact that it’s rich in rare materials. Are you implying this war is about nazis? Not iron, petro and warm water ports?
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13098 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:59 pm to
Not about nazis, iron, petro, etc, but warm water ports are part of the equation.
The natural resources angle makes little sense here and responds to no real Russian need.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:13 pm to
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Nothing to my knowledge. But that doesn’t negate the fact that it’s rich in rare materials. Are you implying this war is about nazis? Not iron, petro and warm water ports?

I think the issue was your implication that our war in Afghanistan was about rare minerals.

I don’t think it’s absurd to say that natural resources play a part in Russia’s decision to invade Ukraine, but there are other more obvious reasons (land bridge to Crimea, buffer state between Russia and NATO/EU, etc.).
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 8:14 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:39 pm to
So what did the Russians frick up today
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:56 pm to
This is an interesting article discussing the shift to nato based weapon systems that Ukraine is starting to undertake. It points out the irony of the situation where Russia, in attempting to keep Ukraine from joining NATO, is going to end up pushing it into NATO.

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Ukraine has few options. At some point, the West will have no more Russian-sourced weaponry to offer. As the war continues, Ukraine must adopt Western weapon systems, making the transfer in midst a pitched and desperate fight.

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The present challenge is for donor states to maximize the time available before Ukraine’s older systems deteriorate, run out of ammunition, or consume some other key consumable. Take artillery—something that Ukraine has employed to good effect on the battlefield. Right now, Ukraine is largely dependent on Russian-derived howitzers and Russian-sized 152mm or 122mm ammunition. If more ammunition is unavailable, once existing ammunition stockpiles run out, Ukraine’s artillery—and all the support networks Ukraine has developed to keep those guns in the fight—will be useless.

To keep fighting, Ukraine’s artillery forces must move to Western-standard 155mm guns and adopt the West’s sophisticated artillery targeting systems. That’s not something that can be done overnight.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2022/04/18/ukraines-shift-to-a-new-nato-arsenal-is-unprecedented-and-inevitable/?sh=6862f4b174bc
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105858 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:26 pm to
Those tubes have a limited life even if they don't run out of ammo
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:33 am to
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What did we get natural resources wise from Afghanistan


Opiates to feed big pharma and our opioid epidemic?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36592 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:35 am to
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Of course the west would have more plausible deniability if we didn't announce during a Pentagon press briefing and put it on Twitter.




It should be evident to everyoe now that the West doesn't want deniability.


We want the Russians to know what we are giving to Ukraine.


After this "Engagement", Russia won't dare try to frick with NATO. Sure they'll do some posturing, and make idle threats, but we all know that that's just them trying to save face in front of their friends and the girl they like (China).


And we also want China to see what they would be going up against in Taiwan.



Hell, right now NATO could demand that Hong Kong be turned back over to Britain, and China would seriously consider it.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36592 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:37 am to
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What did we get natural resources wise from Afghanistan


Opiates to feed big pharma and our opioid epidemic?






Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36592 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:41 am to
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Looks like Russia has learned nothing from the first 7 weeks of the war.



In Mother Russia, War learns You!
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12645 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 8:16 am to
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Opiates to feed big pharma and our opioid epidemic?
Big pharma doesn't make drugs out of Afghan poppies
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