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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/27/22 at 5:58 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 3/27/22 at 5:58 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
From a practicality standpoint it’s stupid… will likely cause fewer Russian pows moving forward… risks an escalation in violence/reprisals… and potentially sours some western support.
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Posted on 3/27/22 at 5:59 pm to lowspark12
It being impractical was kind of the whole point of my post
Posted on 3/27/22 at 6:04 pm to cajunangelle
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Put another way...
What would the USA do if a foreign leader/country placed, trained & funded---- militant radical neo nazi's such as The Azov Battalion on USA soil; under the guise of acting as our National Guard to: Cause chaos & change our leaders & President and place who they want?
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cajunangelle
Maybe you should try reading and/or watching something other than Russian propaganda. You might learn a thing or two.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 6:29 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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we’d all like to think we’ll be smart about it and put on a condom or at least pull out. But sometimes you find yourself choking a chick while rawdogging the frick out of it and bust a nut all up in her before you even know what’s happening.
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 3/27/22 at 6:42 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I never complained about people not acknowledging Ukrainian war crimes.
You said this:
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Nobody cares about Ukrainian war crimes. Hell, about 80% of the active posters in this thread would be more than happy to cheer on the torture and execution of Russian POWs because they’ve been conditioned to believe that every Russian soldier came to Ukraine for the sole purpose of raping children and blowing up maternity wards.
And then you said this:
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Nah, frankly I’d just like to see some consistency. Be against war crimes or be against them, I don’t really give a shite. Or just admit if you are so invested in one side over the other that you don’t care if your side commits them but think the other side should be held accountable.
The tribalism here is hilarious to behold. I feel like this a game thread on the SEC rant because that’s how the majority of posters are treating it. My team never commits a hold and Bama holds every play. It’s childish.
Ironically, this was all part of your response to a post that labeled the Ukrainians’ actions as “an obvious war crime.”
But then you go on to say this:
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Eh I ain’t that mad about it. Combat is one of the most primal things a human can undergo. I’d like to think I’d be better and more civilized than those guys were if I were put in the same situation. Think of it like fricking. It’s just as primal as combat. We’d all like to think we’ll be smart about it and put on a condom or at least pull out. But sometimes you find yourself choking a chick while rawdogging the frick out of it and bust a nut all up in her before you even know what’s happening. That’s basically what war crimes are like
If I’m being honest, it doesn’t seem like tribalism is your real issue here. It seems like your frustration is driven much more by the entire concept of “war crimes” in general, based on your comments throughout this thread.
I understood that mentality (to a point) when we were talking about artillery/missile strikes in a war zone. But now it kind of seems like you’re going all-in on the idea that “all is fair” in war.
There has to be a line somewhere. I get that it’s blurry, circumstantial, and difficult to see on the ground when you are fighting for your life. I also get that we, as a country, have crossed that line in the past. But that doesn’t mean the line doesn’t exist.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 6:48 pm to lostinbr
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Ukrainian forces have regained territory on various fronts. In the direction of Trostyanets, they have pushed back the Russian army to the border.
The Russians who do not know that they want to Russians (aka the Ukrainians) are proving to be a bigger pain in Putin'a arse than his hemorrhoids.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 6:59 pm to notiger1997
Have the unguided rockets that were manufactured in 1984 but are being used the modern Russian forces are using been discussed yet?
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:00 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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That’s basically what war crimes are like
Did you run for Governor of Texas in the 90’s? This whole clusterfrick of a post sounds awfully familiar to that guy that made the rape gaffe
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:01 pm to WeeWee
Honestly, does every Russian military arms depot look like a south Dallas crackden? It’s laughable at this point.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:06 pm to lostinbr
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lostinbr
First of all, thanks for the well thought out response.
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Ironically, this was all part of your response to a post that labeled the Ukrainians’ actions as “an obvious war crime.”
Clearly what the Ukrainian soldiers did in that video was a war crime. It’s not really debatable.
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But then you go on to say this:
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Eh I ain’t that mad about it. Combat is one of the most primal things a human can undergo. I’d like to think I’d be better and more civilized than those guys were if I were put in the same situation. Think of it like fricking. It’s just as primal as combat. We’d all like to think we’ll be smart about it and put on a condom or at least pull out. But sometimes you find yourself choking a chick while rawdogging the frick out of it and bust a nut all up in her before you even know what’s happening. That’s basically what war crimes are like
It being an obvious war crime by the very definition of the word doesn’t mean I don’t understand the motivation behind it.
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If I’m being honest, it doesn’t seem like tribalism is your real issue here. It seems like your frustration is driven much more by the entire concept of “war crimes” in general, based on your comments throughout this thread.
My tribalism comments have had more to do with the willingness of some to take one side’s propaganda at face value while completely dismissing anything that doesn’t 100% agree with that. Some of that has centered around war crimes but not all.
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I understood that mentality (to a point) when we were talking about artillery/missile strikes in a war zone. But now it kind of seems like you’re going all-in on the idea that “all is fair” in war. There has to be a line somewhere. I get that it’s blurry, circumstantial, and difficult to see on the ground when you are fighting for your life. I also get that we, as a country, have crossed that line in the past. But that doesn’t mean the line doesn’t exist.
A war crime is a war crime regardless of the mentality or stress level of the person committing the war crime until we change the definition of war crime. That doesn’t stop me from understanding the mental state of guys fighting for the lives and maybe kneecapping the enemy out of frustration or fear or the pure primal urge to hurt another man. I also know that everytime a hospital gets bombed there’s about 100 other explanations more likely than “the Russians wanted to kill pregnant women for funsies.” Now if they are doing that shite just for the terror aspect or because they hate Ukrainians that much then that is a war crime that I cannot even begin to comprehend or get into the mind of.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:08 pm to PrecedentedTimes
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This whole clusterfrick of a post sounds awfully familiar to that guy that made the rape gaffe
The post was rather self explanatory. I’m sorry you don’t have the capacity to understand it.
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:11 pm to cajunangelle
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What would the USA do if a foreign leader/country placed, trained & funded---- militant radical neo nazi's such as The Azov Battalion on USA soil; under the guise of acting as our National Guard to: Cause chaos & change our leaders & President and place who they want?
You say all of this, yet turn around and say Charlottesville had nothing to do with neonazis and white supremacists and was nothing but media fabrication.
I tend to agree with you on most things on the PoliBoard, but in this case you are being led around the nose by Putin and his propaganda machine...and you can't even see you are being the exact same type of sheep you call progressives out for being.
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:15 pm to Centinel
Just to pick back up on that whole being minimal or no Ukranian POWs thing:
@phildstewart
@phildstewart
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Ukraine president says would like an 'all for all' prisoner exchange with Russia, has handed over list
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:16 pm to LegendInMyMind
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phildstewart
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Ukraine president says would like an 'all for all' prisoner exchange with Russia, has handed over list
I'm not sure what putin would gain from this other than having to keep more mouths shut about what is going on in Ukraine
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:16 pm to LegendInMyMind
Zelensky is like “Holy shite let’s offload these prisoners before my dudes start buttraping them on the Tik-Tok and I stop getting free javelins”
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:24 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I was mainly pointing out that there are clearly a good number of Ukrainian POWs, at least enough to warrant a sizable exchange.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:24 pm to LegendInMyMind
The timing sure is interesting though
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:31 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I think there more to it.
If reports that Russia is refusing to take back their dead soldiers, return of all of those POWs back home will negatively confirm all of those other Russian families' worst fears that their son died in "Special Operation".
If reports that Russia is refusing to take back their dead soldiers, return of all of those POWs back home will negatively confirm all of those other Russian families' worst fears that their son died in "Special Operation".
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:32 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I haven't really looked into the kneecapping video. Has there been any verification or comment from any outside observers, as in not Ukranian or Russian?
I've seen some questions as to the authenticity and reliability of the video, but I really don't have it in me to go digging right now.
I've seen some questions as to the authenticity and reliability of the video, but I really don't have it in me to go digging right now.
Posted on 3/27/22 at 7:35 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I haven't really looked into the kneecapping video. Has there been any verification or comment from any outside observers, as in not Ukranian or Russian?
Nah not to my knowledge and I’m not going to look into too hard myself either. My initial impression is that the videos are legit. I mean there are definitely some fricked up dudes legitimately getting shot in those videos. That stuff is not fake. Is it possible that that it’s Russians doing that to Ukrainians or Russians just shooting mofos for a propaganda video? Sure. But I lean towards taking this one at face value.
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