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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:06 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:06 pm to OMLandshark
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That screwed them too. Spring came earlier than expected to eastern Europe this year. So instead of nice firm frozen ground for Putin’s invading hordes to blitz across, they got mud which confined them to narrow crumbling roads. The big silver lining to the Genocide Olympics, because if China hadn’t been hosting them, he would have certainly invaded earlier.
Almaty Kazakstan was the only other city to bid on the Olympics. If China hadn’t hosted the Olympics would have been held in Almaty which would have been interesting given the unrest they experienced in January.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:15 pm to AU86
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The US and GB knew who did it. The Polish government in exile visited the site and determined it was the Soviets. The US and GB pressured the Poles to keep the report quite because they feared the fallout with the Soviets. The Soviets finally acknowledged their responsibility in 1990.
I read the book No Greater Ally recently while moonlighting weekends at the local VA (btw I feel sorry for any vet who has to use the VA for healthcare). The Allies really screwed the Poles big time during WW2. The UK might have gotten knocked out of the war several times if it wasn’t for the Polish forces that had fled and were integrated into the British forces. Then to just look the other way when the commies took over. End
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:21 pm to WeeWee
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This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:22 pm to WeeWee
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The UK might have gotten knocked out of the war several times if it wasn’t for the Polish forces that had fled and were integrated into the British forces. Then to just look the other way when the commies took over.
The communists had penetrated the British universities in the 20 and 30s, and corrupted a large portion of the students. Many in the wartime command in the UK had communists leanings.
I think that’s the tragic answer
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:25 pm to Lakeboy7
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:46 pm to jfan244888
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Fascinating claimed intercepted call from Russian officer near Mykolaiv to superiors in Russia. He says:
- This is worse than Chechnya
- 50% of troops have frostbite
- They can’t evacuate the dead
- Don’t have enough tents
- RU plane dropped a bomb on their own position
That very well be Ukrainian propaganda and be complete BS. However, if it’s true then Russia is screwed.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:47 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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That is cringe as frick
I thought it was catchy, but I am also not an old fart.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:53 pm to WeeWee
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btw I feel sorry for any vet who has to use the VA for healthcare
That's why this vet doesn't use the VA. They helped to kill my dad. Amongst other things.
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:58 pm to Lakeboy7
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You’d also have a hard time finding a tougher and more resilient people than the Polish. And they HATE the Russians.
I would argue that the Ukrainians are right up there with the Poles on the resiliency list and the hating Russia list.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:01 pm to WeeWee
Not to say I told you so but remember what I said about Russians running out of spare parts in less than 6 months…..
It’s already starting
It’s already starting
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:07 pm to Jim Rockford
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Yana Morozova ? @jane_in_vain Smoke is rising from the building of the Russian embassy in Poland. Allegedly, the diplomats are burning the documents. I think i've seen this somewhere before? Here we go boys.
The Polish Propaganda ppl are ready.
ETA:
They have some work to do to catch Ukraine though
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:13 pm to WeeWee
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the hating Russia list.
Competition on this list is pretty steep. Would make a pretty tough bracket. Georgians, Chechens, Syrians, Ukrainians, East Germans, poles, Czechs, Poles, Latvians, Finns, Ashkenazis, Afghans, Lithuanians, Bulgarians. Pretty much everyone that has ever had the joy of being within the sphere of Russian control.
Maybe if Russia stopped brutalizing it’s subjects, it’s former subjects would stop clamoring to join the Russia won’t brutalize you anymore alliance.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:31 pm to ned nederlander
Stalin really built up a look for hate for Russians but killing 20-30 million people can do that for you.
If you think the Ukrainians are hard fighters and hate the Russians, wait until Poles get involved. They will send in 5 years olds with granades
If you think the Ukrainians are hard fighters and hate the Russians, wait until Poles get involved. They will send in 5 years olds with granades
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:38 pm to TutHillTiger
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If you think the Ukrainians are hard fighters and hate the Russians, wait until Poles get involved. They will send in 5 years olds with granades
If it gets that far. It would not surprise me if Putin uses a WMD if the Ukrainian counterattacks are able to successfully cut the Russian forces west of Kyiv off from Belarus or if the Ukrainians break through to Mariupol.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 5:56 am
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:51 pm to WeeWee
It would or wouldn’t surprise you?
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:01 pm to WeeWee
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Now this is how you troll someone.
2022 VDV vs 2012 VDV.
That's pretty hilarious.
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:37 pm to northshorebamaman
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This is one of those times I wish there was a military board because I would like to learn when/how the NCO became so much more important in western militaries but I don't want to derail this thread and I doubt enough people on the OT give a shite enough to start a thread.
The importance of the NCO corps writ large arose with the rise of the middle class in the Industrial Revolution - that is to say, it became of critical import globally during the Napoleonic Wars, both on the Imperial and on the Coalition sides (with some real forbearing during the American Revolution, as previously mentioned).
Besides being expensive, a truly robust and excellent NCO corps requires a strong and large middle class that subscribes to dominant cultural values and is well-educated in the grand scheme of things (at least a high school education and many with post-secondary education). That basically excludes everyone outside of the Anglosphere, NATO, Japan, and Korea (and probably China to some extent but it's not so clear).
It is - and I am not exaggerating - perhaps the single-greatest advantage we have in any direct combat (along with a superb junior and lower field-grade officer corps, and these two things are directly related, by the way). We are so much better than any potential near peer at the E-4 to E-8 and 0-2 to O-4 levels that it is like the Lakers playing Bawcomville, and only cultural and economic development over 50 or 100 years really comes close to solving that problem for our adversaries, as Russia is finding out the hard way.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:45 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Also may be impossible to achieve at all in a system without considerable political and economic freedom
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