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Posted on 6/17/25 at 12:11 pm to VolSquatch
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Try focusing on the facts we're discussing and drop the ad hominem. It's juvenile.
You've been posting about Trump being a pedophile all morning. You're in no position to lecture anyone, you leftist moron.
So you aren't providing links to your nonsense (there aren't any), just more juvenile anger.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 12:12 pm to cypher
war crime...
Explosives disposal technicians defuse unexploded cluster bombs in homes after attack on Kyiv
During the night shelling of Kyiv, cluster bomb elements fell on and near a high-rise building. Some of them did not detonate.
This is reported by the metropolitan police.
Explosives technicians collected the hazardous elements, neutralized them, and loaded them into two explosion-proof mobile containers. The ammunition was taken to a landfill for further destruction.
Suspilne Kyiv
Explosives disposal technicians defuse unexploded cluster bombs in homes after attack on Kyiv
During the night shelling of Kyiv, cluster bomb elements fell on and near a high-rise building. Some of them did not detonate.
This is reported by the metropolitan police.
Explosives technicians collected the hazardous elements, neutralized them, and loaded them into two explosion-proof mobile containers. The ammunition was taken to a landfill for further destruction.
Suspilne Kyiv
Posted on 6/17/25 at 12:40 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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So you aren't providing links to your nonsense (there aren't any), just more juvenile anger.
I'm not angry about anything, you're the one crying because someone called you out. You want me to provide links and you're using a YouTube video as a source.
Like I said a while back, completely un-serious poster.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 12:41 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Sorry Cope.
It looks like Trump has put your war on the back burner.
He loves the Jew Netanyahu in Israel and hates the one in Kiev.
Ukraine doesn't have an AIPAC lobby that runs Washington.
It looks like Trump has put your war on the back burner.
He loves the Jew Netanyahu in Israel and hates the one in Kiev.
Ukraine doesn't have an AIPAC lobby that runs Washington.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:18 pm to AU86
I’m pro Trump, but his handling of the Ukraine question has been bizarre and doesn’t measure up to the standards set by previous presidents such as JFK, Ike, HW Bush and the emperor, Ronald Reagan.
Let’s hope he does better with Iran.
Let’s hope he does better with Iran.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:31 pm to VolSquatch
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someone called you out
Doesn't change the facts of my post.
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You want me to provide links
Still waiting.
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you're using a YouTube video as a source.
It's a video of a live interview, no hearsay at all. Far better than a written statement and leaves Wolff wide open for a libel finding. IF TACO feels he's innocent of the accusations.
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completely un-serious poster
Denial will eventually fail you.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:58 pm to doubleb
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the emperor, Ronald Reagan.
The guy who largely fricked up the modern world and the US
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:01 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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Doesn't change the facts of my post.
Maybe try Googling what a 'fact' is
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Still waiting.
You're going to be waiting a while. Everyone here remembers you flip flopping with the wind on what you thought Trump would or wouldn't do. We've all seen it. You know it. I know it. No links required.
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It's a video of a live interview, no hearsay at all. Far better than a written statement and leaves Wolff wide open for a libel finding. IF TACO feels he's innocent of the accusations.
Why isn't it national news if its so credible? This could 'finally' take Trump down... where is the coverage?
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Denial will eventually fail you.
I hope you're saying this to yourself in front of a mirror.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:04 pm to VolSquatch
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The guy who largely fricked up the modern world and the US
lol
He brought democracy to most of Europe, weakened Russia and put the US on the throne.
He was an all time great.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:11 pm to doubleb
A lot of the shite he did set up the conditions that created the world we see today.
The USSR was already headed for collapse. He helped it along.
He is one of the most overrated presidents of all time.
The USSR was already headed for collapse. He helped it along.
He is one of the most overrated presidents of all time.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:16 pm to VolSquatch
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A lot of the shite he did set up the conditions that created the world we see today.
Certainly did
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The USSR was already headed for collapse. He helped it along.
You don’t know that. Put Jimmy Carter in for a second time and see what happens.
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He is one of the most overrated presidents of all
One of the top ten
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:17 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:31 pm to doubleb
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You don’t know that. Put Jimmy Carter in for a second time and see what happens.
Most political scholars and historians agree that it was. Their economy had been stagnating since the 70's. Their central planning was inefficient even when the factories could meet quotas (which they usually couldn't) because the formulas they used to plan were too focused on industrial capacity. The formula they used would tell them to keep making things to produce more widgets but they were running out of the widgets themselves because the formula said to produce the manufacturing equipment for them. They were already spending an enormous amount on defense... and to his credit Reagan did up our spend to doom them quicker, but he probably ran a deficit doing that when he didn't have to.
Domestically, Supply side theory was an utter failure. He tripled the national debt in his time in office. The war on drugs had the opposite of the intended effect. He is a big reason why the homeless and mental health crises are so bad today. If you pass by a crazy guy on the street there is a decent chance Reagan had a lot to do with him being there.
Basically Reagan is conservative Obama. Things were good during their presidencies (both started off with bad conditions that later improved). Both spent like crazy, way more than necessary to fix the issues (in Obama's case the fed fricked up too, they shouldn't have kept on with their QE policy as long as they did). Both will be revered until the end of forever by people who agree with them ideologically despite really fricking up America in ways most won't ever understand.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:07 pm to AU86
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It is safe now for all of you Troskyites to go to the poli board and join in the pro war circle jerk going on over there.
They will welcome you with open arms.
Trump neocons are coming out of the woodwork!!
Trump neocons two weeks ago: Trump means No New Wars
Trump neocons now: Bomb the hell out of them!! Kill them all!!
The only problem for you is Trump likes Israel more than he likes Ukraine.
I will give you credit for being a man of consistent convictions.
No new wars would be the best thing.
Trump is screwing up the mechanisms that made that the standard for half a Century+.
He scrapped Obama's Iran nuke deal because he hates Obama... now these are the consequences. Iran with nukes is not a good thing... though I'm not sure that it ultimately can be prevented because I don't trust Russia not to help them along.
I kind of feel like some in the White House and Pentagon are itching to use a "bunker buster" bombing attack on the underground Iranian uranium enrichment location as a thing to tell Putin "you're not safe in your bunker, either." But I don't think that would be Trump's line of thinking.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:14 pm to AU86
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Sorry Cope.
It looks like Trump has put your war on the back burner.
He loves the Jew Netanyahu in Israel and hates the one in Kiev.
Ukraine doesn't have an AIPAC lobby that runs Washington.
Zelensky just wasn't smart enough to pitch the idea of "Trump Crimea" like "Trump Gaza"
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:16 pm to VolSquatch
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the emperor, Ronald Reagan.
The guy who largely fricked up the modern world and the US
I, as the resident Leftist here (or maybe one of 2 or 3), am interested in you expounding on this one!
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:20 pm to Lee B
I did in another comment
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:29 pm to doubleb
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The USSR was already headed for collapse. He helped it along.
You don’t know that. Put Jimmy Carter in for a second time and see what happens.
Carter approved the CIA training and funding the Saudi Mujahideen to harass the government in Afghanistan (which had just seized control after "The People's Revolution" drove out the government that ousted King Hussein a few years prior), who were asking to join the U.S.S.R. The result they hoped for was that the Afghan government would beg the Soviets to come intervene, and get stuck in "their own Vietnam," which we were still freshly pissed about at the time. It worked!!! We called it the "Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan"... because Vietnam was described as the "American Invasion of Vietnam" in Russia/China/similarly-inclined locales.
That is what pretty much destroyed the Soviet Union, combined with Reagan's insane Cold War Arms Race spending... but remember that Reagan watched "The Day After" and was horrified (apparently he didn't understand what Nuclear War would be like...) and would've have agreed with the Soviet offer to eliminate ALL nukes (the Soviets were bluffing with some fo their arsenal, anyway) but the Pentagon convinced him that would just lead to endless conventional warfare around the world.
I just can't quite forgive Reagan for letting (possibly helping) Pakistan go nuclear, as a ploy to hold off Soviet expansion past Afghanistan (which, if it was going to happen, would happen the same way it almost did in Afghanistan... through an internal revolution, not by invasion, so that was really dumb). I don't trust a nuclear India... nuclear Pakistan seems completely foolish...
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:38 pm to VolSquatch
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I did in another comment
Obama did actually say he wanted to be the "Democratic party (Centrist/moderate) Reagan" over and over and over...
I'm not sure his spending could be called "like crazy" compared to W Bush (and a lot of the QE and other stuff started in that term) and Trump 2017-2020...
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