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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:31 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:31 am to VolSquatch
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I hope there is an obvious answer there.
The obvious answer is to fight for your freedom now that you are geared up and hzve allies helping you.
Btw, what are disputed territories? Territory Russia claimed, but Ukraine occupies?
As far as being subjugated later, I see nothing that would stop Russia from continuing the war at a date they find convenient.
We are in round two of the Russian v Ukrainian wars. Why do you believe there wouldn’t be a round three?
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Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:32 am to John Barron
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When the Ukranian side refused, the Russians reportedly stood up and warned that next time, the demand would include five regions
Gah Damn
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:34 am to doubleb
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The obvious answer is to fight for your freedom now that you are geared up and hzve allies helping you.
They have been 'geared up' for years now and are still losing
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Btw, what are disputed territories? Territory Russia claimed, but Ukraine occupies?
That, and territories that Ukraine rightfully claims and Russia occupies
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As far as being subjugated later, I see nothing that would stop Russia from continuing the war at a date they find convenient.
We are in round two of the Russian v Ukrainian wars. Why do you believe there wouldn’t be a round three?
There won't be a round three if there isn't a Ukraine
If they are subjugated, what would be the point of a round 3? Putin have a domination kink or something?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:41 am to VolSquatch
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If they are subjugated, what would be the point of a round 3? Putin have a domination kink or something?
A round three occurs when Ukraine sgrees to Russia’s demand for the four Oblasks and Crimea and then ten years from now decides to take the rest.
But you knew that, right?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:55 am to doubleb
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A round three occurs when Ukraine sgrees to Russia’s demand for the four Oblasks and Crimea and then ten years from now decides to take the rest.
And if Russia subjugates them, they don't need to actually take the land for the same reason they don't need to actually take Belarus.
But you knew that, right?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:00 am to VolSquatch
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A) Withdrawing from the "disputed" territories now as part of a deal with Russia
"Disputed territories" where Russians are a distinct minority...
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:12 am to Auburn1968
Hence why I said it in quotes
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:19 am to Auburn1968
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"Disputed territories" where Russians are a distinct minority...
That map you posted is for "Ethnic Russians" which has nothing to do with what the majority of the population considers themselves in that region. For example in the Donbas 70% of the population speaks Russian and they voted to Join Russia by 98% in 2022 when a referendum was held. This should not come as a suprise since the Ukrainian Government was bombing them since 2014
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:27 am to klrstix
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The obvious answer is you don't get to set the parameters of my opinions much less the terms of which may or may not be acceptable to Ukraine.
Except he does cause his and my tax dollars have gone to those freeloaders. All their government services and even small businesses are ran on our dime.
An average working age American has donated $1200 to Ukrainians, often without their consent. They definitely got a say what is acceptable to Ukraine.
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 10:29 am
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:34 am to PoppedRiser
The only reason he says I don't have a say Is because I have the "wrong" opinion according to his dumb arse
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:43 am to PoppedRiser
oh god another one
Did SirWinston lose his login?
Did SirWinston lose his login?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:44 am to doubleb
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The obvious answer is to fight for your freedom now that you are geared up and hzve allies helping you.
What freedom are you talking about? They can't even leave Ukraine right now, they get forced into vans on the street to be mobilized even those refusing to fight, Z put sanctions on all his oppositions including ex-Ukrainian president, banned any opposition news, sanctions major media figures and jailed dissidents. They literally turned into an open air concentration camp that make Kim Jong jealous.
The obvious answer is to fight for your freedom now that you are geared up and hzve allies helping you.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:45 am to VolSquatch
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And if Russia subjugates them, they don't need to actually take the land for the same reason they don't need to actually take Belarus. But you knew that, right?
Belarus is pro Russian and Ukraine isn’t.
They are not the same by a long shot.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:52 am to cypher
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rookie propaganda......
Looter tied up and humiliated for trying to steal during Russian attack on Kyiv
So Russians are somehow responsible for Ukrainians tying one another to street signs and lamp posts for suspect looting? And that's "propaganda" to you? By that logic we would be blaming American soldiers for sectarian violence in Iraq.
You still haven't addressed their "bussification"(the term Ukrainains coined for conscription kindappings) of men who are beaten and thrown into vans on a daily basis all over the country or the fact that they catch people who try to flee the border and do little photo-ops with them like they're POWs or something.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:59 am to PoppedRiser
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An average working age American has donated $1200 to Ukrainians, often without their consent.
Its almost as if you don't understand how a Representative Republic works..
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:14 am to klrstix
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Its almost as if you don't understand how a Representative Republic works..
Your assumption is 2020 election was legitimate and there's no MIC and corporate bribery/lobbying in Congress.
Ukrianian delegation went full clown. They all speak Russian yet used an interpreter, unless they unlearned Russian in 3 years.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:25 am to cypher
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
@ZelenskyyUa
·
2h
Spoke with
@POTUS
together with President Macron, Federal Chancellor Merz, Prime Ministers Starmer and Tusk. We discussed the meeting in Istanbul.
Ukraine is ready to take the fastest possible steps to bring real peace, and it is important that the world holds a strong stance.
Our position — if the Russians reject a full and unconditional ceasefire and an end to killings, tough sanctions must follow. Pressure on Russia must be maintained until Russia is ready to end the war
Thank you to everyone in the world who is helping.
@ZelenskyyUa
·
2h
Spoke with
@POTUS
together with President Macron, Federal Chancellor Merz, Prime Ministers Starmer and Tusk. We discussed the meeting in Istanbul.
Ukraine is ready to take the fastest possible steps to bring real peace, and it is important that the world holds a strong stance.
Our position — if the Russians reject a full and unconditional ceasefire and an end to killings, tough sanctions must follow. Pressure on Russia must be maintained until Russia is ready to end the war
Thank you to everyone in the world who is helping.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:52 am to dagrippa
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Did SirWinston lose his login?
I think he got banned.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 12:03 pm to doubleb
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Belarus is pro Russian and Ukraine isn’t.
They are not the same by a long shot.
Lmfao you don't fricking get it dude.
You say Russia is going to subjugate Ukraine in one post, then fail to understand the consequences of that in the next.
Are you pretending to be dumb? I hope so. I truly do.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 12:06 pm to cypher
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tough sanctions must follow.
What tough sanctions have they been holding in their back pocket for 3 years?
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