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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Trump stated that Russia seeks to occupy the entire territory of Ukraine, but it should abandon those ambitions.

"Russia will have to give up all of Ukraine. Because Russia wants all of Ukraine. And if I hadn’t intervened, they would still be fighting for the whole of Ukraine right now. Russia doesn’t just want the piece it currently holds — it wants the entire country," said the U.S. President.

Trump also added that European leaders had repeatedly asked him to call Putin, as the latter was ignoring their calls.


Certainly not! We've been told here repeatedly that is not the case!!!


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But the same money can be used to buy weapons in Ukraine twice as cheaply as in the EU or the US. This would effectively double the amount of aid, raising its real value to €80 billion.


in effect subsidizing the Ukrainian defense industry. GREAT!!!!
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Thursday Russia was Bragging about taking most of Belovody


In Sept, Trinidad and Lima and various other Putin cockholsters were bragging that Pokrovsk was about to fall. And as soon as that happened the Ukrainian line would be untenable and the rest of Donetsk would fall. Ukraine is collapsing!!!

Now it's been 8 months and Russia has quietly stopped trying to even take Pokrovsk. Maybe the big June offensive?

I guess we'll have to wait for that collapse.....


It's over. It's been over!!!
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Remember when you said Ukraine would never give up any land


Did I miss something? What have they given up?
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 3:22 pm to
She always looks rode hard and put up wet, to me.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 3:36 pm to
That’s being way too nice
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 3:48 pm to
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That’s being way too nice


She reminds me of a secretary I had in Carson, CA in 1992/3 who had obviously had a pretty hard life before then. Though MGT is not nearly as competent at the secretary
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20229 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:43 pm to
Keep writing 500 word essays you might just convince yourself
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20229 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:49 pm to
There you go again with the male sexual references. You guys have some real issues with projecting your fantasies online. Its really odd. Might want to get some professional help, or just come out of the closet.

And yes Russia is still in ukraine but your monty python definition of winning still exists I see
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:50 pm to
You didn't respond to a single question?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:53 pm to
Well then, what's your definition of winning? You keep telling us this war is over. So help us understand.

Trump said Putin wants all of Ukraine. Putin says he had everything he needs to "finish the job".

But he only occupies 20% of the country. So what does winning look like? Does it look like this?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20229 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:59 pm to
I did respond its 500 words of a circular argument intermixed with TDS.

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:08 pm to
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Did I miss something? What have they given up?


Ukraine isn’t keeping any of the land Russia took
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:38 pm to
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Ukraine isn’t keeping any of the land Russia


Perhaps they won’t, but they haven’t given any up yet have they?

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 6:47 pm to
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Perhaps they won’t, but they haven’t given any up yet have they?


They’ve given up 25% of their country actually
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:15 pm to
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They’ve given up 25% of their country actually


How much did they give up the first month but took back?
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 7:17 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16084 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:32 pm to
Putin is raising taxes on individuals and businesses to pay for HIS war.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42746 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:35 pm to
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They’ve given up 25% of their country actually


If a thug breaks into your home and takes your tv, computer and drives off in your car does that mean you gave them away? Would you still claim the items as yours?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:10 pm to
ISW Update May 5 2025

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Key Takeaways:

Russian sources claimed on May 5 that Ukrainian forces conducted a series of limited attacks across the Russia-Ukraine international border near Tetkino, Kursk Oblast.

The Russian military command reportedly recently redeployed elements of the 68th Army Corps and 58th Combined Arms Army to the Toretsk direction from the Kurakhove and western Zaporizhia directions.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Czech President Petr Pavel announced on May 4 that Czechia will work with Ukraine to establish a school to train Ukrainian pilots on F-16 fighter jets outside of Ukraine.

Russian forces recently advanced near Vovchansk, Siversk, Toretsk, Kurakhove, and Velyka Novosilka.


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