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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:39 pm to DMAN1968
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:39 pm to DMAN1968
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#1 NATO
It's not like there are videos are anything going back a long time on this one.
And he has managed to get Finland and Sweden to drop their neutral status and join NATO over this... giving NATO further control over the Baltic Sea and even more strategic paths to St. Petersberg and Moscow.
He also got NATO to change its Article 5 rules so that if one of the Baltic States is attacked, instead of the 5 day period to pull together the Alliance and plan action, the NATO states in the region can start firing missiles at Moscow and St. Petersberg immediately.
So that is some 4589-dimensional chess on his part...
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:40 pm to Lee B
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And he has managed to get Finland and Sweden to drop their neutral status and join NATO over this...
Its almost.... ALMOST... like Russia has said for decades that Ukraine is important to them, whereas Finland and Sweden are not.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:50 pm to VolSquatch
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Its almost.... ALMOST... like Russia has said for decades that Ukraine is important to them, whereas Finland and Sweden are not.
"Russia" says all kinds of shite. You can pick and choose what to believe.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:52 pm to dagrippa
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"Russia" says all kinds of shite. You can pick and choose what to believe.
Absolutely. But they have said this for a long, long time.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:53 pm to VolSquatch
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Sales for the last two quarters were up compared to the same time a year ago
So why is Elon freaking out so much?
I did see where Tesla scammed the Canadian government by having dealerships report almost 5,000 sales each in the last month that the government was offering a rebate... the lots can't hold 5,000 cars, and that's a remarkable jump in sales per month, so they're investigating it...
Since they own their own dealerships, that makes me doubt reported sales. The dealership in Manhatten just closed... same with one in L.A.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:54 pm to VolSquatch
[quote]That's not the question, it was whether or not you'd be ok with it.
Please define “it”.
For the record, I’m against any of the nuclear powers using nukes.
Please define “it”.
For the record, I’m against any of the nuclear powers using nukes.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:55 pm to Lee B
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So why is Elon freaking out so much?
Probably the domestic terrorism targeting his company, if I had to take a completely wild and speculative guess at it.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:55 pm to VolSquatch
[quote]Somebody who doesn't want to be finished off right now? [/quote
Please define right now.
Please define right now.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:55 pm to doubleb
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Please define “it”.
Ukraine using nukes on Russia. You know, the original claim we were talking about
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:56 pm to Darth_Vader
Corrrct
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:56 pm to doubleb
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Please define right now.
You're bad at this
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:57 pm to VolSquatch
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And he has managed to get Finland and Sweden to drop their neutral status and join NATO over this...
Its almost.... ALMOST... like Russia has said for decades that Ukraine is important to them, whereas Finland and Sweden are not.
You obviously don't know the history of Russia and Finland... they have always considered it Russian, and its people Russian, and want to reclaim it... invaded it in WWII, which actually went a lot like Ukraine is going now, and they ended up with a chunk of it... mess with it all the time. It just got a much earlier start on establishing itself as a separate entity and defends itself better.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:58 pm to VolSquatch
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Absolutely. But they have said this for a long, long time.
Well I profess to be educated and above average in intellect and have said that since at least the early 80s. Yet here I am wasting my time reading the opinions of total strangers (and one propagandist at least) about a war in Europe on a football message board.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:58 pm to VolSquatch
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You're bad at this
I’ve learned how you twist things around,
I don’t think Ukraine is cratering right now, but I define right now is ghdd Ed very near future . A day or do, but you might dsy it’s three more years, who knows?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:59 pm to Lee B
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You obviously don't know the history of Russia and Finland... they have always considered it Russian, and its people Russian, and want to reclaim it... invaded it in WWII, which actually went a lot like Ukraine is going now, and they ended up with a chunk of it... mess with it all the time. It just got a much earlier start on establishing itself as a separate entity and defends itself better.
Yeah its not nearly on the level of Ukraine, try again
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:01 pm to doubleb
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I don’t think Ukraine is cratering right now, but I define right now is ghdd Ed very near future . A day or do, but you might dsy it’s three more years, who knows?
In the grand scheme of things as it pertains to the point in question, "right now" would be until the current fighting ends at least theoretically for good until it starts again later (assuming it does).
I think a simpler way of defining it would be that you can't let yourself get killed today because you're so worried about tomorrow. Sometimes you have to kick the can down the road and deal with things later.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:03 pm to dagrippa
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Well I profess to be educated and above average in intellect and have said that since at least the early 80s. Yet here I am wasting my time reading the opinions of total strangers (and one propagandist at least) about a war in Europe on a football message board.
Lol, I used to pop in on several different boards on here from time to time. But lately I almost exclusively read and respond here.
I won't know what to do with myself when Zelensky stops paying Citizen and Cypher to keep this going.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:06 pm to VolSquatch
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Its almost.... ALMOST... like Russia has said for decades that Ukraine is important to them, whereas Finland and Sweden are not.
Russia may have fought Finland more than anybody, they aren’t best of friends.
Sweden and Russia have fought a lot slso.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:08 pm to VolSquatch
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In the grand scheme of things as it pertains to the point in question, "right now" would be until the current fighting ends at least theoretically for good until it starts again later (assuming it does).
Great answer
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:21 pm to VolSquatch
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Ukraine using nukes on Russia. You know, the original claim we were talking about
I answered that. In a make believe world Rusdia would never have attacked Ukraine if they had nukes; thus there would be no need to use nukes.
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