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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:01 pm to Lee B
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:01 pm to Lee B
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Peace through capitulation to our enemies!
Isn't that what the US has done for 50 years?
Vietnam
Iraq
Afghanistan
Stupid politicians and stupid foreign policy are a mixture for a bankrupt nation.
Stop getting into these stupid wars and it might change.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 2:06 pm
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:16 pm to AU86
Vietnam
Iraq
Afghanistan
Ukraine
One of these is not like the other three.
Iraq
Afghanistan
Ukraine
One of these is not like the other three.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:23 pm to VolSquatch
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The war began in 2014 when Putin invaded Crimea. Oh come on, thats such bullshite.
Really?
Prior to February of 2022 how much of Ukraine did Russia control?
How much do they control now?
How much of Russia does Ukraine control?
I think a good case can be made that the second largest army in Europe acquitted themselves very well considering the opponent. You also have to consider the successes they had in the Black Sea and in disrupting the Russian industrial complex.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:34 pm to VolSquatch
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People like CitizenK who think Europe wouldn't have gotten Russia the equipment to fix it have exactly 1 brain cell in their head and that may be estimating high. Ukraine wanted to take Russian gas as a bargaining chip off the table entirely so that they would get more aid for longer and not be pressured into a peace that probably would have been better than what they will end up with in the end anyway.
Why didn't gas continue to flow from the unaffected pipeline? Because it wasn't flowing in the first place. Russians phucked up the compressors by allowing hydrate formation in the feeder pipelines.
Nordstream was 100% a political decision to get Germany dependent on Russia not to make money. The Brotherhood pipeline system had more than enough capacity to provide ALL of Europe which was never utilized.
But you bought into the crappy reporting from the likes of Tucker the Stupid Phucker
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:35 pm to AU86
Did anybody else notice that there was no mention of a temporary ceasefire for negotiations? Ukrainian drones blowing up Russian oil refineries and Russian missiles hitting Ukrainian power plants is going to complicate things if you ask me.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:36 pm to doubleb
Ukraine is now attacking IAEA inspectors
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:41 pm to John Barron
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:43 pm to John Barron
Another administration in 4 years can change course on NATO membership for Ukraine... no matter what agreement is made with Putin (because Putin will have probably broken something he agreed to long before then).
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:45 pm to Lee B
US Senate confirms Ukraine-skeptic Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence
by The Kyiv Independent news desk February 12, 2025 7:44 PM
The U.S. Senate voted to confirm Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence on Feb. 10. The former lawmaker has previously blamed NATO for Russia's war against Ukraine, and faced scrutiny for her controversial foreign policy views.
As director of national intelligence, Gabbard will be in charge of U.S. spy agencies.
Gabbard is a National Guard veteran and former Democratic congress member who left the party in 2022 and began campaigning alongside U.S. President Donald Trump. She has no formal intelligence experience and has never led a government department or agency.
She has previously repeated Kremlin talking points justifying the 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine. "This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia's legitimate security concerns," she wrote on X at the start of the invasion.
Gabbard has also argued that the eastward expansion of NATO had provoked Moscow and claimed that the U.S. was fueling a proxy war with Russia that could lead to a "forever war."
During her hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Gabbard said she was "offended" by a question from Republican Senator Jerry Moran over whether Russia would "get a pass" from her in light of her past statements.
The Kyiv Independent
by The Kyiv Independent news desk February 12, 2025 7:44 PM
The U.S. Senate voted to confirm Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence on Feb. 10. The former lawmaker has previously blamed NATO for Russia's war against Ukraine, and faced scrutiny for her controversial foreign policy views.
As director of national intelligence, Gabbard will be in charge of U.S. spy agencies.
Gabbard is a National Guard veteran and former Democratic congress member who left the party in 2022 and began campaigning alongside U.S. President Donald Trump. She has no formal intelligence experience and has never led a government department or agency.
She has previously repeated Kremlin talking points justifying the 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine. "This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia's legitimate security concerns," she wrote on X at the start of the invasion.
Gabbard has also argued that the eastward expansion of NATO had provoked Moscow and claimed that the U.S. was fueling a proxy war with Russia that could lead to a "forever war."
During her hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Gabbard said she was "offended" by a question from Republican Senator Jerry Moran over whether Russia would "get a pass" from her in light of her past statements.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:45 pm to WeeWee
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Did anybody else notice that there was no mention of a temporary ceasefire for negotiations? Ukrainian drones blowing up Russian oil refineries and Russian missiles hitting Ukrainian power plants is going to complicate things if you ask me.
I don't expect the Gaza ceasefire to hold... I don't think one in Ukraine will hold for longer than 30 minutes... I don't trust Putin to stop no matter what... I just expect him to hold Trump to stopping aid to Ukraine while ignoring his side of the deal.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:46 pm to WeeWee
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Did anybody else notice that there was no mention of a temporary ceasefire for negotiations?
There will be no ceasefire according to Putin and Lavrov. No Minsk 3. You are right. There could be some bad things possibly happen to derail the process. I don't see it coming from the Ukraine side as much, I think they are ready for this to end.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:50 pm to John Barron
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Mr. Trump's conversation with Putin came shortly after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth seemed to undercut key Ukrainian positions in eventual peace talks, including by ruling out eventual membership in NATO. Speaking ahead of a closed-door meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contract Group about more aid, Hegseth said peace in the country must include security guarantees that "should not be provided through NATO membership, but must instead be backed by capable European and non-European troops."
Great idea. Let Poland, Sweden, Finland, the UK, France, etc that want to secure Ukraine secure Ukraine. However, do not be fooled the USA will be involved. We are still going to have to be the ones providing air to air refueling, AWACs coverage, and a lot of other support stuff because the European members of NATO can't do it for themselves.
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"We are going to have all this money in there, and I say I want it back. And I told them that I want the equivalent, like $500 billion worth of rare earth," he said. "They have essentially agreed to do that, so at least we don't feel stupid."
The U.S. has provided more than $65 billion in military assistance to Ukraine since Russia launched its invasion in February 2022, according to the State Department.
Anybody know if we (the US government or American companies that would use the minerals) are paying Ukraine for these rare earth minerals or not? If we are getting $500 billion worth of rare earth minerals in exchange for out $65 billion in assistance then we are arse raping Ukraine.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:51 pm to doubleb
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Really?
Prior to February of 2022 how much of Ukraine did Russia control?
How much do they control now?
How much of Russia does Ukraine control?
This actually helps my case
Taking land doesn't = a war if the sides are fighting. Russia occupied their land in 2014. There is a difference.
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I think a good case can be made that the second largest army in Europe acquitted themselves very well considering the opponent. You also have to consider the successes they had in the Black Sea and in disrupting the Russian industrial complex.
No one is talking about how successful or unsuccessful they were. I mentioned their size because someone claimed they were "demilitarized".
If you want to have that argument, they were the 2nd largest military in Europe in 2022 while also being supplied by the entire west, which probably elevates them to the strongest in real terms. And they are still going to lose territory to the bumbling Russians. Just an absolute failure by Ukrainian and Western leadership.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:52 pm to AU86
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I don't see it coming from the Ukraine side as much, I think they are ready for this to end.
They just bombed IAEA inspectors. I guarantee this type of lashing out will continue from them
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:53 pm to cypher
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During her hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Gabbard said she was "offended" by a question from Republican Senator Jerry Moran over whether Russia would "get a pass" from her in light of her past statements.
So is that a no? I don't think so.
At least she's just a possible Russian asset. I'd be more concerned if she was on the China payroll tbh.
but this is for the Wingnut Politics Board, I know this place is just about what's happening with the war in Ukraine.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:56 pm to AU86
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There will be no ceasefire according to Putin and Lavrov. No Minsk 3. You are right. There could be some bad things possibly happen to derail the process. I don't see it coming from the Ukraine side as much, I think they are ready for this to end.
Are the Ukrainians tired? Oh yes. Do they want peace? Oh yes. Are they willing to compromise? I believe so. Are they acting like they are more willing to compromise for peace than they really are to appease Trump? Absolutely yes.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:56 pm to WeeWee
I haven’t posted here in a while but I’ve kept up with what’s going on with the war. I’ve kept silent so I didn’t seem like I was straddling the fence but there’s one issue that I’ve noticed is just continuing to become more and more prevalent to me is the absolute hatred a lot of Europeans have for us in the United States. I hear more bullshite about don’t buy American and some say buy Chinese even though it has been our military that has propped up NATO and kept it from dissolving into a joke by being the world’s arsenal while many NATO nations didn’t even spend 1%, much less the 2% required, GDP for all members on military spending. All through the years we made up the difference. Now in year 3 of a war that Joe Biden completely fricked from the start it’s like “how dare the Americans ask for some of Ukraine’s resources back one day as a form of lend lease to arm them and keep arming them!” I agree the $500 billion number Trump threw out was ridiculous and will never happen but $100 billion? Who knows what the number would be but there’s one thing that is not up for debate. Without the help of the U.S., Ukraine would already be Russian so you’d think some would at least realize that even we don’t have unlimited stocks of shells and missiles and we have an economy at home we also have to balance. I’m 100% behind Ukraine and I hope one day Putin does the slowest death possible for his war crimes, but it feels like all of a sudden we are the enemy to many “allies”.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:57 pm to WeeWee
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Great idea. Let Poland, Sweden, Finland, the UK, France, etc that want to secure Ukraine secure Ukraine. However, do not be fooled the USA will be involved. We are still going to have to be the ones providing air to air refueling, AWACs coverage, and a lot of other support stuff because the European members of NATO can't do it for themselves.
It is still an unknown if Russia will agree to peacekeepers in Ukraine.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:00 pm to dagrippa
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I know this place
Is certified delusional
Filled with NAFO trolls like this 
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:07 pm to CitizenK
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People like CitizenK who think Europe wouldn't have gotten Russia the equipment to fix it have exactly 1 brain cell in their head and that may be estimating high. Ukraine wanted to take Russian gas as a bargaining chip off the table entirely so that they would get more aid for longer and not be pressured into a peace that probably would have been better than what they will end up with in the end anyway.
Why didn't gas continue to flow from the unaffected pipeline? Because it wasn't flowing in the first place. Russians phucked up the compressors by allowing hydrate formation in the feeder pipelines.
Who gives a shite if Ukraine destroyed Nordstream or if it was an accident cause by allowing hydrate formation in the feeder pipelines? Ukraine is at war with Russia so it is a legit target. If it exploded because Russia let hydrate form then that sucks for Russia.
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Nordstream was 100% a political decision to get Germany dependent
Yep
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The Brotherhood pipeline system had more than enough capacity to provide ALL of Europe which was never utilized.
This is true. Now it is not being utilized at all. Ukraine owns and controls the western end of the pipeline. Trump should really look into Zelensky's idea of using Ukraine's pipelines and storage to supply American natural gas to Europe. It is a win-win for America and Ukraine and the EU. The only losers are Russia and f**k them.
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