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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:33 am to
Posted by bigjoe1
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:33 am to
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It doesn't make sense. If they stole it from us we would still have the technology ourselves and should have a working product
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Maybe we do.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:42 am to
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov:

The conflict in Ukraine cannot be resolved within 100 days without realism from the U.S.

"I would first like to understand on what basis the American side intends to move toward a resolution. If it is based on the signals we have been hearing in recent days, then it won't work—neither in 100 days nor beyond."


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Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:44 am to
Who knows, maybe we do already have it.

A simple Google search on "US Hypersonic Missile" shows multiple hypersonic systems under development.

If Russia did, in fact, steal it under Obama's administration, then it sounds like Russia stole an early version, and what the US is about to field is 10 better than Russia's. That would be true to course as most of Russia's military tech sucks compared to the US's.

Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:58 am to
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General Kellogg was just on Fox. He said that Trump is planning on 45 dollar a barrel oil.


The US produces more oil than any nation on earth. This price point would largely make existing US wells break even and make new wells unprofitable.

Oil at that price point would be bad for the US economy.

What am I missing that makes oil at this price good for the US in anyway?
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:05 am to
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What am I missing that makes oil at this price good for the US in anyway?


In general, a lower inflation rate.
I agree, $45 oil won't be encouraging to drill baby drill.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:06 am to
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What am I missing that makes oil at this price good for the US in anyway?


I’m not in favor of making private businesses work for nothing. That’s not capitalism.

I am no oil expert. If it cost X to bring a barrrl of oil to market an oil company needs to sell it at X plus.

As for what cheap oil does for the US, it makes goods and services cheaper. Gasoline cheaper. It helps to lower inflation. All of this benefits consumers.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:07 am to
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shows multiple hypersonic systems under development.


We had some under development and they failed. If you truly are America First then let's give this money to Elon to start a defense company responsible for missile projects. This is a good breakdown that shows our failures


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:31 am to
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"Trump won't resolve or regulate the conflict in Ukraine in 100 days or 180 days. The Russian army will do it. And no matter what they say, the decision will be on the battlefield, and today this battlefield is ours."
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:34 am to
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Who knows, maybe we do already have it.


We were developing it but it failed. Per Bloomberg.


"The end of American military supremacy. While China and Russia have hypersonic missiles, the US program has failed.

Switching now from Lockheed Martin to Raytheon means a setback of at least a decade for hypersonic weapons.

This is the result of three factors:

??Lack of manufacturing capabilities

??Lack of scientists and engineers with Ph.d in areas such as materials science. Instead, too many Americans are majoring in fluff like gender studies.

??Crony capitalism: Weapons manufacturers bribe/lobby politicians, who write big checks in turn. There’s no accountability."

LINK


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Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:38 am to
Perhaps the US has realized that the technology we currently have (or is under development) will alleviate the need for Hypersonic missiles. Who knows...I don't.

I am not losing any sleep at night over the status of the US Hypersonic missile program.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:43 am to
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Only 1% of Ukrainians were dumb enough to believe the Ghost of Kyiv story.


1% of Ukrainians and 95% of redditors
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Perhaps the US has realized that the technology we currently have (or is under development) will alleviate the need for Hypersonic missiles. Who knows...I don't.



Maybe they have some kind of missile that will look like reversed footage at impact to fool the targets into thinking they actually launched something instead of got hit
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:54 am to
Russia’s Oreshnik missile is more bluff than breakthrough - The Economist
January 24, 2025, 07:48 AM

Charred fragments of the Russian Oreshek missile, which Russia launched at Ukraine in November 2024, indicate that it is merely a modernized version of the Soviet RS-26 Rubezh medium-range ballistic missile, the Economist wrote on Jan. 23.

Putin has labeled the so-called "hypersonic" Oreshnik as a breakthrough in Russian technology. However, the missile’s wreckage tells a different story.

One of its components dates back to 2017, while another part, found inside one of the missile’s warheads, was manufactured in 2016.

"This confirms suspicions that Oreshek is nothing more than a modified version of the older RS-26 Rubezh medium-range ballistic missile," the article emphasizes.

The report argues that Oreshnik is less of a serious military threat and more of a demonstration of power. It is designed for a Western audience, serving as a reminder of Russia’s nuclear capabilities.

NV
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:02 pm to
Maybe, Ivan
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:03 pm to
Actually all that confirms is that the exchange is 1 to 10. Which if Ukraine is retreating makes sense they wouldn't be able to bring/collect their dead.

And if Ukraine was 1 to 10 KIA Russia would be cakewalking into Kyiv. That ratio doesn't hold water as much as you like to say the 1M and 700k casualty numbers don't work you think you'd think more critically about this.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Maybe they have some kind of missile that will look like reversed footage at impact to fool the targets into thinking they actually launched something instead of got hit


Chrome will be sure to let us know
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:43 pm to
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The report argues that Oreshnik is less of a serious military threat 


Ukraine disagrees. You should stop reading cope articles

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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:49 pm to
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And if Ukraine was 1 to 10 KIA Russia would be cakewalking into Kyiv. That ratio doesn't hold water as much as you like to say 


That's what the exchange rate shows. If the actual ratio was 6:1 in favor of Russia that would be plausible considering the Manpower issues Ukraine is having right now documented by Ukrainian sources. Ukraine has been using fortified cities as Defense. The last one is about to fall in Pokrovsk. After that, those manpower issues will become more of a factor
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Maybe, Ivan



We have a regular Joe McCarthy over here

If you don't have the logical capacity to actually win an argument, just accuse your opposition of being Russian/communist/etc
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