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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:54 am to cypher
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:54 am to cypher
I’m not as tech savy as you are, but the old saying seeing is believing doesn’t work anymore. We have a pro here and the network he is part of is very accomplished. Nothing he posts can be considered as genuine.
Thanks Cyoher
Thanks Cyoher
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:57 am to Camp Randall
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This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:59 am to doubleb
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:00 am to OMLandshark
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This started in 2014 when we did a coup against the Ukrainian government and we additionally provoked it by breaking our promise in not expand NATO to the east.
OM that is still Russian disinformation. It hasn't crossed over from being that to "what actually happened" yet. It will, give it time.
The "Ukraine didn't destroy NordStream" story was a highly accelerated version of this process. Some here still deny the truth.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:00 am to AU86
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There was never any chance Ukraine was getting into Nato. None. Zero.
I have been saying that; and furthermore, Russia knew that too.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:01 am to OMLandshark
It was always going to come to this. If we are really committed to Ukraine "winning", we would have to directly deploy our troops. It was obvious from the start.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:03 am to Camp Randall
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Well the Russians, Iranians, and the North Koreans are the only ones waging this war. What is history gonna do to them that they haven’t embraced already?
Bingo
Our actions enabled the evil triumvirate, but they alone are the bad guys here.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:04 am to doubleb
Kinda sounds like Putin doesn't want to negotiate and Trump is about to drop the hammer.
But I'm sure I'm reading all that wrong. Lima, SirWinston, and texag have all told me that Trump is on Putin's side. (To be fair, that's also what leftists all said during the campaign.)
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:04 am to OMLandshark
frick zelenskyyyyyyyyy
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:06 am to doubleb
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he posts
All facts. Hundreds of Twitter accounts including Pro Ukrainian Accounts like this one with 474k followers posted the Facebook post of the Ukrainian Military Journalist. You believing a dumbass that says everything is fake that is bad news for Ukraine is your problem. The post was real, Deal with it.
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:08 am to GOP_Tiger
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Trump is about to drop the hammer.
Grasping at straws.
He didn't mention more military aid. He mentioned accelerating stuff we are already doing.... which leads me to question if there are still economic avenues, why didn't the Biden admin already use them? Are more sanctions really FINALLY going to get Putin this time? lol
You guys are like Elmer Fudd chasing Buggs Bunny at this point.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:08 am to John Barron
"Please, President Trump. I can't handle all this winning. Can we at least take a short break?" 
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:09 am to doubleb
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Thanks Cyoher
Since you misspelled his name, his programming probably won't pick up your post.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:09 am to VolSquatch
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It was always going to come to this. If we are really committed to Ukraine "winning", we would have to directly deploy our troops. It was obvious from the start.
Nonsense. If Biden had given Ukraine F-16s, ATACMS, and cluster munitions before the 2023 Ukrainian offensive (instead of after), Ukraine would have cut the "land bridge" to Crimea, and they would actually be taking control of Crimea right now.
Currently, Russia is no longer running any ships to Crimea, and the trains over the Kerch Bridge still do not carry heavy cargo, so all supply is happening on the trains along the "land bridge." If Ukraine had been able to cut it in 2023, Russia would have no way to supply Crimea and would have sued for peace months ago.
It's important to state that the reason that this did not happen was that Joe Biden did not want it to happen.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:12 am to GOP_Tiger
Trump has no leverage. What the hell does Russia sell into the US?
Putin hasall.of the leverage. Short of sending troops from the west, it has reached the point of nothing is going to stop Putin. He will go to the Dnieper if he choses. There are a lot of hardliners in Russia pushing for that.
I guess it depends on how much of a relationship does Putin want for Russia to have in the future. If he desires a future relationship he will negotiate, if he doesn't or if it fails he continues.
Mark my words, The second this ends Germany will immediately go back to its prewar habits/policies toward Russia like nothing ever happened.
Trump has inherited a shite sandwich.
Putin hasall.of the leverage. Short of sending troops from the west, it has reached the point of nothing is going to stop Putin. He will go to the Dnieper if he choses. There are a lot of hardliners in Russia pushing for that.
I guess it depends on how much of a relationship does Putin want for Russia to have in the future. If he desires a future relationship he will negotiate, if he doesn't or if it fails he continues.
Mark my words, The second this ends Germany will immediately go back to its prewar habits/policies toward Russia like nothing ever happened.
Trump has inherited a shite sandwich.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 11:20 am
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:13 am to GOP_Tiger
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Currently, Russia is no longer running any ships to Crimea, and the trains over the Kerch Bridge still do not carry heavy cargo, so all supply is happening on the trains along the "land bridge." If Ukraine had been able to cut it in 2023, Russia would have no way to supply Crimea and would have sued for peace months ago.
Don't you claim that Russia can't sue for peace currently because Putin is backed into a corner?
So he can't stop the war now with more land than he has in your hypothetical, but that situation would have caused him to tap out?
Consider me doubful.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:15 am to VolSquatch
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Are more sanctions really FINALLY going to get Putin this time? lol
They keep ignoring facts like this just released yesterday. This was posted from a Very Pro Ukrainian poster Rob Lee. The bottom line is any information that does not line up with their make believe reality they ignore.
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if there are still economic avenues, why didn't the Biden admin already use them?
Duh. Biden is a wuss and is scared of escalation. Biden thought that Putin would use nukes. Why did Biden wait until his last week in office to impose sanctions on Russia's "ghost fleet" of ships?
And, yeah, you have no idea what secondary sanctions could do to the Russian economy. Those are like the sanctions that Trump put on Iran: if you do business with Iran, then you can't do business with the US. Trump could absolutely crush the Russian economy in no time, and he's not going to wet his pants worrying about how Putin might respond.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:16 am to John Barron
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All facts. Hundreds of Twitter accounts including Pro Ukrainian Accounts like this one with 474k followers posted the Facebook post of the Ukrainian Military Journalist. You believing a dumbass that says everything is fake that is bad news for Ukraine is your problem. The post was real, Deal with it
The fact that the people who clown on JB the most also 100% believe CItizenK and Cypher's hour by hour KuckPost updates is completely hilarious
"No way I'm eating that pile of dogshit, man. The one in this guy's yard tastes so much better"
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:19 am to AU86
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Trump has inherited a shite sandwich.
Unfortunately this is the truth. This was always their goal though. They knew they lost the War thats why Victoria Nuland resigned. That last 60 billion was given to Ukraine so they would not collapse on Biden's watch. Now they will blame everything on President Trump
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