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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:51 pm to
Okay sport
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:08 pm to
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According to Ukraine and its allies

Absolutely meaningless numbers. From both sides.


Good thing that people can at least count the vehicles destroyed. Initially, Ukrainian losses in Kursk were much higher than Russian ones (the attacking army usually has higher casualties). But since October 16, there have been 365 documented Russian armored vehicle losses in Kursk, to 155 Ukrainian losses.

LINK
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:34 pm to
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Good thing that people can at least count the vehicles destroyed


You just linked a Google spreadsheet with made up numbers.



You wonder why nobody takes you guys seriously. That guy Oryx was running the same scam until he got busted counting Ukraine equipment destroyed as Russian. Then he had to quit once the NATO equipment showed up on the battlefield and could no longer continue his scam
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 4:44 am to
For anyone who isn't a Russian agent, I will point out that, not only are the numbers not "made up," the spreadsheet has links to photos/video of every vehicle loss. The OSINT community has done a tremendous service in counting losses.

You really, truly believe that Oryx was running a scam, because running scams is all you know. That's everything that Russian propaganda is. The whole concept of "truth" is meaningless to you. No one in Russia even expects anyone to actually tell the truth.

And Oryx didn't get "busted." He simply decided to quit doing massive amounts of unpaid work and actually focus on making a living. But he turned to the count over to other people who are still counting.

It's hilarious -- it's almost as though you are trying to be as ridiculously wrong as possible.
This post was edited on 1/18/25 at 4:45 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 5:14 am to
"These pro-Ukrainian idiots don't even know that the moon is made of green cheese. Hahahaha."

- John Barron
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:05 am to
Random tweets

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Photo of Scholz and Baerbock's quarrel over money for Ukraine has become a meme

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has vetoed a new €3 billion financial aid package for Ukraine, sparking outrage from Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock.

Baerbock demonstratively walked out of the government meeting following Scholz’s decision. The Chancellor tried to stop his minister, but to no avail.

LINK

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According to Al Araby, Syria has banned the import of goods manufactured in Russia, Israel and Iran.

Not looking good for Russia’s chances of keeping their bases in Syria.

LINK

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Special operations forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine struck the "rosneft" oil depot in kaluha region of russian federation, - General Staff.

On the night of January 18, an object in the settlement of Lyudynovo, which is part of JSC "Kaluhanefteprodukt" and supplies units of russian Armed Forces, was hit.

As a result of the attack, a fire broke out on the territory of the base. The results are being verified.

LINK

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:45 am to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:50 am to
oil depot strikes seem to be having more success recently

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Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:55 am to
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Photo of Scholz and Baerbock's quarrel over money for Ukraine has become a meme

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has vetoed a new €3 billion financial aid package for Ukraine, sparking outrage from Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock.

Baerbock demonstratively walked out of the government meeting following Scholz’s decision. The Chancellor tried to stop his minister, but to no avail.


Baerbock is saying that the photo is being misinterpreted, but as you indicated, it's already a meme.


Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:07 am to
How is that revolutionary technology you're working on? You know, the very real one that has actually already existed for decades?

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21022 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:11 am to
A viral twitter thread led to an article in the Financial Times last week that suggested that Russian banks face a credit crisis that might imminently collapse the Russian economy.

Unfortunately, the claims in the FT article are overhyped and fail to account for a number of factors.

No, Russia is not on the verge of a banking crisis
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:12 am to
There are geotags and photos, it's one of the better actual things anyone has posted here.

The problem is assuming vehicle losses coincide directly with casualty numbers when we don't know for sure the overall number of vehicles each side has available, or exactly how those were allocated in that area vs across the front. In Kursk specifically it would be more difficult to reinforce with more vehicles for Ukraine, so an imbalance in vehicle losses isn't the best metric or data points, but it's one we have I guess.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:19 am to
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We've sent something like $300B of aid to Israel total from 1946 to 2024. We've appropriated $183B to Ukraine just from 2022 to 2024


Just want to highlight this in case any of the "we have to keep our word, the international community won't trust us anymore if we don't help Ukraine indefinitely" clowns try to pretend we have done more than our fair share
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:22 am to
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russian terrorism update...



Very much terrorism

That's akin to doing something like, assassinating a government official in the streets of their capital.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38223 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:28 am to
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billions of dollars in more consumable military assets that we have to replace (shells, rockets) vs "hard" military assets like vehicles that may or not be retired.


This is a good thing, it will stimulate our production of shells. According to Lima, shell production (and maybe coal ) is the only metric of a country’s economic health. So now maybe now that it’s a need, we can get caught up to the economic powerhouses of Russia and North Korea.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:36 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:39 am to
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According to Lima


Always knew you secretly thought him a genius
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13437 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:42 am to
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But since October 16, there have been 365 documented Russian armored vehicle losses in Kursk, to 155 Ukrainian losses.

Not sure that's as relevant as you think. Man power is Ukraine's issue...vehicles can be replaced...the soldiers can't. Russia can provide more people for longer as we are seeing. No one knows what Ukraine's actual personnel loss is.

It's been a battle of attrition since very early on.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 9:02 am to
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You really, truly believe that Oryx was running a scam, because running scams is all you know. That's everything that Russian propaganda is. The whole concept of "truth" is meaningless to you. No one in Russia even expects anyone to actually tell the truth.


I watched the Chernobyl hbo docuseries again the other day. Watching that in the context of modern disinfo campaigns is sobering.

I’m pretty sure Russia saw how much their (the governments) perception changed afterwards and significantly contributed to the dissolution of the USSR. They want that same lack of faith of enterprise to permeate into the west.

Thats why the play both sides of the bullshite. They want everything to seem like a lie.
This post was edited on 1/18/25 at 9:03 am
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
16099 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 9:14 am to
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Not sure that's as relevant as you think. Man power is Ukraine's issue...vehicles can be replaced...the soldiers can't. Russia can provide more people for longer as we are seeing. No one knows what Ukraine's actual personnel loss is.

It's been a battle of attrition since very early on.


And Russia hasn't lost way more? It's not like their population centers for Slavs have been more than barely touched for conscripts/recruits.

Ukraine's economy is in far better shape than Russia's. Want to pay 21% interest to the Central Bank? Want to bleed the treasury dry to give HUGE (by Russian standards) signing bonuses to feed its meat grinder which is yielding lower results in recent months.? Give plane to North Korea for its soldiers?

Russia's GDP is not all that and a bag of chips. McCain was right about one thing, its; a gas station, and developed by US companies and US money in the 1990's. Russian workers have very low productivity rates with at best sketchy skills and making things properly. Most all finished goods are imported, but they do export those little dolls.
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