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Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:00 pm to SirWinston
Pro Ukrainian NAFO Fella Rob Lee has some bad news...
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:01 pm to John Barron
"An op-ed by Serhii Filimonov the commander of Ukraine's 108th "Da Vinci Wolves" Separate Mechanized Battalion:
"Newly formed brigades within the Ukrainian military face critical challenges on the front lines. Poor management, lack of experience, and inadequate training have resulted in territorial losses, damaged equipment, and tragic casualties. NATO’s training methods often fail to align with the realities of modern warfare. Despite receiving advanced equipment and personnel, these brigades falter due to weak coordination and leadership.
These units lack a solid command and control 'backbone.' Their core comprises reserve officers, officers from non-combat roles, and individuals promoted despite prior underperformance in combat positions...
Substantial reforms are urgently needed in Ukraine’s basic combat training. However, no reforms can succeed without commanders who earn the trust of soldiers and volunteers alike. The absence of this trust has led many soldiers to leave struggling brigades in favor of units with better leadership, taking advantage of laws decriminalizing initial desertion. Resources — both personnel and equipment — must be allocated to units that prioritize the lives of Ukrainian soldiers and deliver results."
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"Newly formed brigades within the Ukrainian military face critical challenges on the front lines. Poor management, lack of experience, and inadequate training have resulted in territorial losses, damaged equipment, and tragic casualties. NATO’s training methods often fail to align with the realities of modern warfare. Despite receiving advanced equipment and personnel, these brigades falter due to weak coordination and leadership.
These units lack a solid command and control 'backbone.' Their core comprises reserve officers, officers from non-combat roles, and individuals promoted despite prior underperformance in combat positions...
Substantial reforms are urgently needed in Ukraine’s basic combat training. However, no reforms can succeed without commanders who earn the trust of soldiers and volunteers alike. The absence of this trust has led many soldiers to leave struggling brigades in favor of units with better leadership, taking advantage of laws decriminalizing initial desertion. Resources — both personnel and equipment — must be allocated to units that prioritize the lives of Ukrainian soldiers and deliver results."
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:01 pm to SirWinston
This guy seems to be pissed at Finland and the Baltics need liberating for some reason.
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:12 pm to John Barron
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:13 pm to VolSquatch
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The true dollar figure isn't just what we have given them, but also how much it took to replace it. During one round of approved supplemental funding to replace our stockpiles, we spent almost $12B out of $18B on shells and missiles as of Dec 2023 per the Governmental Accountability Office.
It was already replaced 3 decades ago. As for munitions, we did give them things at or near, or past lifespan, along with cluster munitions we no longer use or make. Yes we have replaced some of the OLD munitions, and bought munitions from other nations to ship to Ukraine.
Also, Ukraine offered to use its Antonov cargo jets, the largest in the world, to transport all of this but the DoD used its own 3rd party carriers. So it would have been a lot less expensive if we had used Ukrainian aircraft.
BTW, Antonov jets are pretty common in bringing gas turbines for rebuild. 20+years ago the preferred shop to rebuild them was in New Zealand. At about that time the market was flooded with gas turbine generator sets, especially GE Frame 5 when companies had bought shop time to have them for cogen units, as well as all of the Enron cancelled orders.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:32 pm to cypher
Russian media always over promises their capability which underdelivers. Must be for internal consumption and Putin's toy boys in the West. When they underdeliver the excuse that someone cheated is always the case without fail.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 4:35 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 1/17/25 at 4:59 pm to John Barron
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:19 pm to Lee B
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Let's give them the money that exists to buy Greenland, maybe!
I see that you are still melting over Greenland.
It is going to be a long four years for you.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:38 pm to MoarKilometers
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there's also the north koreans y'all manage to turn a blind eyed to
That's the worst sort of escalation and internationalization of this war imaginable, yet it is more or less ignored.
Of course, Putin wants to "liberate" the Baltics too while the Baltic states are doing all they can to de-Russify their countries and providing aid to Ukraine.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:05 pm to Auburn1968
ISW Update Jan 17
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Key Takeaways:
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian signed the Russia-Iran Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Agreement on January 17.
The Russia-Iran Comprehensive Strategic Partnership agreement lacks a mutual defense clause, however, indicating that Russia likely lacks the bandwidth to support significant operations outside of Ukraine and is prioritizing its manpower needs through its mutual defense treaty with North Korea.
Russian forces seized Vremivka on January 17 as part of their efforts to envelop Velyka Novosilka and force Ukrainian forces to withdraw from the settlement.
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a phone call on January 17 indicating the Kremlin's growing concerns over Armenia's deepening ties with the West.
Recently declassified US documents highlight the integral role of US monetary and technical assistance in expanding Ukraine's domestic drone production capabilities and how US national security is directly benefiting by integrating lessons learned from Ukraine in America’s defense industry.
Russian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast and the Kharkiv, Kupyansk, Borova, Toretsk, Pokrovsk, and Kurakhove directions.
Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on January 17 authorizing calling up Russian reservists (“personnel mobilization resource” or zapas) for training in 2025.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:10 pm to VolSquatch
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But we have sent a considerable amount of financial aid to Ukraine as well, and billions of dollars in more consumable military assets that we have to replace (shells, rockets) vs "hard" military assets like vehicles that may or not be retired.
The true dollar figure isn't just what we have given them, but also how much it took to replace it. During one round of approved supplemental funding to replace our stockpiles, we spent almost $12B out of $18B on shells and missiles as of Dec 2023 per the Governmental Accountability Office. The shells we sent maybe would have been old enough where we had to inspect and destroy some of them, but there isn't any real data out there on that I've found.
Looking at just dollars though, in March of 2023 the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget had the cash number at over $40B.
The amount of 'mothballed" equipment is a topic of a lot of debate and I don't know that its a monkey worth bringing out of the closet again, but some of the claims here about exactly how much of it was old stuff were WAY off target.
So why don't we see y'all in the Israel thread promoting your brand of fiscal conservatism
we're almost 8 decades in giving away metric fricktons of tax dollars to them, with 0 end in sight. We can even say Ukraine has never killed a few dozen American GIs. So what's the actual difference to y'all? 
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:28 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Posted by GOP_Tiger 8/7/24 at 7:31 pm to Auburn1968
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Ukraine isn't at all done expanding its control in Kursk. They are going to end up with a comparable size, taken at almost no cost.
Looking back 5 months later. Ukraine has lost nearly 70% of the land they took and thousands upon thousands of troops dead.
Your prediction was completely wrong.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:09 pm to John Barron
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People believe what makes them feel happy and safe. Reality is indifferent and pretty much sucks. Some people can’t help but to live in echo chambers, it’s the only place they can survive mentally.
Absolutely hilarious.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:17 pm to texag7
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Your prediction was completely wrong.
Not the first time in this thread that I have been wrong, that's for sure. But my basic point in that claim HAS proven correct: that Ukraine would control a piece of Kursk for a long time, including through the end of the Biden presidency. Meanwhile, guys like Lima were predicting that Russia would only need a few days to retake Kursk.
And your causality claims are exactly backwards: Russia is losing crazy amounts of men and equipment trying to retake Kursk.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:45 pm to MoarKilometers
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So why don't we see y'all in the Israel thread promoting your brand of fiscal conservatism we're almost 8 decades in giving away metric fricktons of tax dollars to them, with 0 end in sight. We can even say Ukraine has never killed a few dozen American GIs. So what's the actual difference to y'all?
There is 0 difference to me in terms of the aid itself. I think Israel actually has a worse case for aid from us than Ukraine does because their country isn't at risk of extinction.
I do think there are some key differences for myself in why I don't complain about aid to Israel and do here about Ukraine, and it boils down to me estimating that conflict to be much shorter than the Ukraine conflict, our ally in Israel is FAR more important to us than Ukraine is, and we aren't seemingly trying to extend it indefinitely like it appears we are doing with Ukraine given our actions there.
The big one is the amount allocated. We've sent something like $300B of aid to Israel total from 1946 to 2024. We've appropriated $183B to Ukraine just from 2022 to 2024.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:46 pm to GOP_Tiger
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And your causality claims are exactly backwards: Russia is losing crazy amounts of men and equipment trying to retake Kursk.
According to Ukraine and its allies
Absolutely meaningless numbers. From both sides.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:49 pm to CitizenK
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It was already replaced 3 decades ago.
Not according to the DoD, but I'm sure you have a friend who knows more than they do that you can call
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