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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:06 am to IRespectBrianKelly
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:06 am to IRespectBrianKelly
Really responsible and rational use of cavalry assets by Ukraine by the way.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 9:07 am
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:35 am to IRespectBrianKelly
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Really responsible and rational use of cavalry assets by Ukraine by the way.
Capturing 500 sq. km. with only a few losses, while eliminating many Russian assets and taking POWs? Indeed.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:40 am to StormyMcMan
I think the Ukrainians have gotten into the Russians head a bit.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:45 am to LSUPilot07
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think the Ukrainians have gotten into the Russians head a bit
I agree. This is Rybars most recent tweet
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?? ???????? On the problems of coordination in the Kursk direction
We explain the overly emotional appeal of our comrades from the channel Revenge of Goodwill.
??The Kursk direction is now being filled with units from different types and branches of the military, which are subordinate to different groups and commands. "Fire brigades" arrive in an accelerated manner, in these cases the bureaucratic gears of the RF Armed Forces are somewhat, ahem, slowing down and creaking.
??You don't have to go far for an example: one of the special forces units of the Russian army, sent to eliminate the operational crisis in Martynovka and Sudzha, encountered on the way... the military police, who tried for a long time and tediously to check the documents of the people who were going to liberate the territories.
??Due to communication failures for both objective (enemy electronic warfare) and subjective reasons, neighbors on the right and left often do not know each other, do not know who to turn to in order to cover the flanks. Because of this, the integrity of the front is lost, and enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups break through ( the night entry into the Belovsky district is clear evidence of this).
??In the conditions of counter-terrorist operation, the organization of horizontal connections without excessive bureaucracy is the key to the survival of troops and the effectiveness of their work. No one wants our own units to suffer from friendly fire, right? Everyone is on edge, such an outcome, alas, is not zero.
??Without establishing horizontal connections, debugging the combat control and communications system, it is extremely difficult to operate effectively in the Russian borderland. Why overcome again if problems can simply be avoided?
??In general, what is happening in the Kursk direction was a stress test of all the RF Armed Forces for the ability to act in a crisis situation, and it remains so. We have already said that it is necessary to draw conclusions and take into account mistakes. Now, alas, we are patching up holes, and not correcting the approach.
#Kursk #Russia #Ukraine
LINK
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:56 am to GOP_Tiger
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Capturing 500 sq. km.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:01 am to IRespectBrianKelly
Responsible and rational vs irresponsible and irrational… good questions to ask Putin considering this entire war was his decision.
What is the net balance of what Putin has gained vs lost since he first attacked Ukraine in 2022?
Ukraine has lost plenty, but this war was not their choice.
What is the net balance of what Putin has gained vs lost since he first attacked Ukraine in 2022?
Ukraine has lost plenty, but this war was not their choice.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:12 am to IRespectBrianKelly
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LOL
Your troops don't know what a pallet is. The logistics tail must be gigantic handling individual crated artillery shells and boxes of bullets one by one from train to pile from pile to truck, and from truck to not much bigger than golf carts, to get to where used. Any numerical superiority is spent in handling logistics
Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:17 am to AGGIES
Putin's 3 day Special Military Operation is now on Day 900. Seems more like Gilligan's Island's 3 day tour on year 3 when they were still stranded and cancelled.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:47 am to LSUPilot07
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I think the Ukrainians have gotten into the Russians head a bit.
It would be like English speaking Canadians invading the north and pretending to be Americans.
After we got over the “holy shite are they actually invading? This wasn’t supposed to happen” shock, we’d be paranoid as frick that everyone with a weird accent wearing US army fatigues was a mole.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:06 am to Hateradedrink
As the Kursk Raid comes to a predictable conclusion we should ask ourselves what it was the Ukrainians set out to accomplish and whether, in light of those goals, the raid was a success or a failure. Don’t worry I know that no matter how great or how obvious Ukraine’s failure in all levels the idiots here will declare victory. I find that very satisfying and amusing.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 11:50 am
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:10 am to IRespectBrianKelly
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we should ask ourselves what it was the Russians set out to accomplish and whether, in light of those goals, the SMO was a success or a failure. Don’t worry I know that no matter how great or how obvious Russia’s failure in all levels the idiots there will declare victory. I find that very satisfying and amusing.
FIFY
ETA we don't know what Ukraines goals with this raid are because they haven't announced that. Unlike Russia who has yet to accomplish any of their stated goals from 2022 and has yet to "liberate" all of the falsely annexed territory
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 11:15 am
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:16 am to StormyMcMan
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Unlike Russia who has yet to accomplish any of their stated goals from 2022 and has yet to "liberate" all of the falsely annexed territory
They liberated the shite out of Bakhmut.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:12 pm to GOP_Tiger
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And for the record, I hate the loss of any life in this war,
Only absolute idiots believe you.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:36 pm to No Colors
Perhaps the greatest casualty of this war has been irony
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:42 pm to IRespectBrianKelly
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Don’t worry I know that no matter how great or how obvious Ukraine’s failure in all levels the idiots here will declare victory. I find that very satisfying and amusing.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:18 pm to IRespectBrianKelly
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As the Kursk Raid comes to a predictable conclusion
Your smack-talkimg would be less ridiculous if you waited until your team had at least stopped Ukrainian advances.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:52 pm to GOP_Tiger
For what it's worth, I largely agree with this analysis. If Ukraine had taken Korenevo and fully controlled the eastern part of Sudzha and its surroundings, then I would feel more confident in Ukraine's ability to defend this territory for the long term.
The military value of the Kursk operation is therefore somewhat dubious, though the political value is much, much higher than military analysts are giving it credit for.
On the other hand, I completely agree that the operation is now relatively low risk. Syrskyi obviously only authorized it now because the first new brigades from the new mobilization law are completing training and are ready to be deployed to replace some of the forces sent to Kursk from elsewhere on the front. Almost all the risk in the operation was at the beginning, when Russia might have destroyed much of the attacking force.
The military value of the Kursk operation is therefore somewhat dubious, though the political value is much, much higher than military analysts are giving it credit for.
On the other hand, I completely agree that the operation is now relatively low risk. Syrskyi obviously only authorized it now because the first new brigades from the new mobilization law are completing training and are ready to be deployed to replace some of the forces sent to Kursk from elsewhere on the front. Almost all the risk in the operation was at the beginning, when Russia might have destroyed much of the attacking force.
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The military value of the Kursk operation is therefore somewhat dubious

Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:09 pm to GOP_Tiger
And that’s proving the be a lot easier said than done. Ukraine did its homework for this operation and didn’t force it like the counteroffensive last year. Ukraine has at least 5 brigades and probably more like 6 or 7 involved so call it 10,000-14,000 men with around 750 armored vehicles of different types. There are soviet equipped brigades fighting right next to U.S. supplied ones but the most important thing that Ukraine has done is form a wall of artillery and EW as well as sending constant drone attacks on both Khalino airbase and Kursk airport as well to mitigate their use. Now Su-34 flights are coming from further away but the bombing has been heavy. There’s no chance they would risk a Patriot system in Kursk but they have to have at least some BUKs or even something like some of the Avenger systems we gave Ukraineto go with MANPADS. So far they just wait for Russia to send their usual columns and then the 27th Rocket Artillery Brigade is waiting across the border in Ukraine to launch a volley of cluster ATACMS to put thousands of holes through people and equipment.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:17 pm to LSUPilot07
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wait for Russia to send their usual columns and then thr 27th Rocket Artilkery Brigade is waiting across the border in Ukraine to launch a volley of cluster ATACMS to put thousands of holes through people and equipment.

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