Started By
Message

re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:16 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138784 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:16 am to
quote:

I hope Zelensky and his generals are reading similar things and they stop listening to Jake Sullivan.
That would be nice. But as a total dependent, it's hard not to listen to a benefactor. Unfortunately, it's a truth as applicable to the present situation as it was to the fate of Viktor Shokin.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 12:18 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:39 am to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:47 am to
quote:

Put differently, had terms of surrender following WWI resembled those ending WWII, the German foundations of Hitler's rise and European war would have been largely absent. I suppose, based on your response, you didn't know that. The Polish Corridor alone was a predictable casus belli, and in fact, it turned out to be just that.


Oh come on. When have I shown any deficiency with matters of the historical record?

The claim that the Pacific theater could have been avoided is spurious, because the US did go to great lengths to avoid the war. I touch on it a little bit earlier in this thread. LINK
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:30 am to
EU rebuffs Hungary and Slovakia. BTW, the sanctions are on Lukoil crude which neither Hungary or Slovakia is receiving. So whining about fake news to begin with.

LINK
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138784 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:46 am to
quote:

When have I shown any deficiency with matters of the historical record?
Two examples are your "dear lord" post .... and here: "The claim that the Pacific theater could have been avoided is spurious, because the US did go to great lengths to avoid the war."

To the contrary, the US did everything one would expect, if the effort was to economically goad Japan into an attack.

There are several well done treatises on western influence driving Japanese colonialism and respondent ramifications of American economic weaponry targeting Japan in the prelude to war.

"The Evolution of Japanese Colonialism" by Kublin; and "Japan Prepares for Total War : The Search for Economic Security, 1919-1941" by Barnhart were written in different eras, but both cover the topic nicely.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4325 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 3:53 am to
Meanwhile in Russia, the mob war escalates.
quote:

... the behind-the-scenes struggle continues in Russia. Not only is [now-sidelined Defense Minister Sergei] Shoigu's team being cleaned out, but something is also happening to the witnesses in this case.
quote:

Sergei Shoigu is still at large, but the ring around him is tightening. Almost his entire team has either been removed from their positions or is already under arrest.

1. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu - removed from office;
2. First Deputy Defense Minister Ruslan Tsalikov - removed from office;
3. Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov - removed from office and arrested;
4. Deputy Defense Minister, Colonel General Yuri Sadovenko - removed from office;
5. Deputy Defense Minister Tatyana Shevtsova - removed from office;6. Deputy Defense Minister, retired Army General Nikolai Pankov - removed from office;
7. Deputy Defense Minister, Army General Pavel Popov - removed from office;
8. And the Deputy Defense Minister himself, Army General Dmitry Bulgakov - removed from office and arrested.

So the Shoigu Mob are now doing what all mafiosi do - murdering the witnesses:

In July, businessman Igor Kotelnikov, accused of bribing officials of the Ministry of Defense, died in a pretrial detention center. He was involved in the case of the arrested former Deputy Minister of Defense General Dmitry Bulgakov.

The next day, it became known about the death of the head of the State Expertise Department of the Ministry of Defense of Russia Magomed Khandayev, who was directly subordinate to Timur Ivanov. He died after a visit from security officials.

Old Russian proverb: "When the music stops, everyone has to grab a toilet. Only so many to go around."

LINK
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:54 am to
quote:


That is true. The minimum conscription age is 25. It was 27 until early this year. The only way for 18-24 year olds to serve is to volunteer. I have asked my contacts in Ukraine why that is and nobody really knew for sure. They just knew it was a rule made by the communist authorities in the Ukrainian SSR and it was carried over to the Ukrainian republic. Dumb AF to me.


My understanding was that it was originally a rule designed to address demographic concerns. Ukraine has a declining population, and the idea was that men would marry and reproduce before being drafted and possibly dying.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 5:00 am to
Another video of massive explosions at Morozovsk:

Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 5:11 am to
Fascinating. Ukraine is now using its big quadcopter "baba Yaga" drones to launch precision-guided munitions.

So, a capability that was previously restricted to the extremely large drones, such as a MQ-9 Reaper or a Bayraktar, is now executed by much, much smaller drones.

The War Zone
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:02 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 03 August 2024

The average daily Russian casualties (killed and wounded) in Ukraine has fallen over the past two months from a conflict high of over 1262 per day in May to 1140 in July 2024. Despite this reduction, the last three months have been the costliest for Russian forces since February 2022, according to Ukrainian General Staff reporting.

The reduction in daily average is likely indicative of Russian forces consolidating positions on the Kharkiv axis. Although this new approach has increased the pressure on the frontline, an effective Ukrainian defence and a lack of Russian training reduces Russia's ability to exploit any tactical successes into wider operational gains.

Russia's casualty rate will likely continue to average above 1,000 a day throughout August 2024 as Russia continues offensive operations on a wide front from Kharkiv in the north to Robotyne in the south of Ukraine
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Another video of massive explosions at Morozovsk


FIRMS data shows the whole airfield on fire. It seems likely that Ukraine caught Russia while they were actually loading those giant glide bombs onto the bombers. I don't think that the secondary explosions that we see in the videos are likely without the destruction of multiple Russian aircraft.

That's just my supposition, though. We'll have to wait for satellite photos to know for sure.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 8:25 am to
quote:

To the contrary, the US did everything one would expect, if the effort was to economically goad Japan into an attack.



Again, not supported by the historical record.

quote:

There are several well done treatises on western influence driving Japanese colonialism and respondent ramifications of American economic weaponry targeting Japan in the prelude to war.



And there are primary sources from Japanese High Command that straight up says they are planning war with the US before any economic warfare was started.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 8:57 am to
File this under "Big if True" -- from the official Telegram channel of the Ukrainian armed forces:

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:39 am to
quote:

before being drafted and possibly dying


Dude it's weird that thinking about this makes you moist.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:49 am to
It's weird that your soul is so perverted and satanic that you would even imagine that.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:11 am to
Looking at the airbase on google maps and comparing to the FIRMS data, it appears Ukraine hit the weapons storage areas and the aircraft revetments.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1819606798996832756


Airbase in Google Maps


Here you can see the location of the airbase in Russia in relationship to Ukraine
Google Maps

If you zoom into the airfield, it appears they use it for SU-34's. The Google maps image that shows all the planes was taken in 2024 so it is a fairly recent picture; however, the distribution of planes last night would have been different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 10:16 am
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116930 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:13 am to
Join the Russian army and fight for Allah against those dirty white people in Ukraine.

Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138784 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:15 am to
quote:

And there are primary sources from Japanese High Command that straight up says they are planning war with the US before any economic warfare was started.
You have no clue what that (planning war) means. None. I gave you some reading material. Brush up.

I'll respond briefly in this post. If you want to detail it further, start another thread. This has nothing to do with the OP, and spun-off based on the oft cited contention that war represents failure of diplomacy.

Regarding military planning, contingency work and analysis is a rudimentary element. Any military. Any time. Meaning pre-WWII, we were similarly planning, both in terms of the Pacific and Atlantic Theaters. Many describe those preparations (with plenty of justification btw) as associated with fervative searches for a casus belli.

However, specific Japanese attack planning began in early 1941. It surrounded plans to capture South Pacific raw resources. That was two years or so after the US terminated its commercial treaty with Japan, and 6 mos after we passed the Export Control Act and sundry embargoes.

Pearl Harbor planning began at the same time and as result of the US entering dialogue with both British and Dutch to cut off all oil exports to Japan (eventually enacted in July 1941). The 1941 Oil Embargo created an untenable situation for Japan, basically pushing it to attempt to seize such assets in the South Pacific. FDR&Co surmised that would be the case. We confirmed our presumptions when we intercepted Japanese diplomatic cables to that effect months before PH.

Those are the simple facts.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:15 am to
I’m almost positive all the Q conspiracy bullshite being peddled is just Russians changing around names, using what’s actually happening in their own country as a script
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:39 am to
Japan was active in WW2 before Pearl. As a member of the Axis they invaded French Indochina. Before that they were fighting China.

Japan was a militaristic country and if the US had not put sanctions on them they may never have attacked Pearl. There’s no way to know for sure, what would have happened if the US had not been attacked and Japan had gone unchecked.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 10:50 am
first pageprev pagePage 4023 of 5046Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram