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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:47 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:47 am to
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File this under "Big if True" -- from the official Telegram channel of the Ukrainian armed forces:
September 2023, fwiw.

Details here.

Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8589 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:14 am to
It’s true. It sank. That is absolutely hilarious! Budanov is playing chess while Putin is playing checkers. They let them dump all that money into restoring that sub then he waits for them to make repairs just to strike it again. Pure gold! Also 4 S-400 launchers! That’s a good days work.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 11:16 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:50 am to
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However, specific Japanese attack planning began in early 1941. It surrounded plans to capture South Pacific raw resources. That was two years or so after the US terminated its commercial treaty with Japan, and 6 mos after we passed the Export Control Act and sundry embargoes.


You realize I went over this in my link, with references to the differences between what FDR wanted in terms of the embargo and what was actually implemented by Assistant SOS Dean Acheson. The war plans for Pearl Harbor were finished in April of 1941, four months before the oil embargo went into effect. The decision to attack was made by the Liaison Committee on September 6th at the 6th Imperial Conference. Between September 4th and September 25th, Cordell Hull was made aware of the extent of the oil embargo through discussions with Ambassador Nomura, which he discussed at that time with FDR, who decided that rolling back the embargo might be a sign of negotiating weakness.

But the actual origins of the war plan began in not response to the US, but Britain. In July of 1940, under the new leadership of Prince Konoe Fuminaro, the Imperial Army began to make plans to launch attacks against British possessions in the East. It was only the Imperial Navy who insisted that the planning should include possible American intervention, after a military exercise in May of 1940, where the scale of the reliance on American oil was revealed.

That the intractability of Japanese demands given their resource limitations is somehow oddly not held against the Japanese, and yet they acted in a way for a year before the embargo was put in place so as to ensure it's conclusion and you regard the US as having 'pushed Japan' towards that end? That's not the way things work. You are reducing Japanese agency here because they knew the limitations of their geopolitical aims and yet still tried to go past those limitations. What should have been a move to mediate their own expansionist aims is instead seen as the US forcing them to act is a very curious description, which fits in with the way you tend to describe non-American agency in general. It isn't accurate, no matter how many times you repeat it. It's frankly an insane and idiotic way of looking at geopolitics.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138781 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:52 pm to
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no matter how many times you repeat it
You've been misled. Start a different thread, or drop it. Macht nichts, but it's not related to the OP.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:55 pm to
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soul is so perverted and satanic


An absolutely staggering lack of self awareness.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 2:14 pm to
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You've been misled.


Nah
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 3:11 pm to
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It is strange that Ukraine doesn't draft 18 to 24 year olds (last I heard). The cemeteries from D-Day have a great many 18 to 24 year olds.



If Ukraine doesn't preserve its 18-24 year old men, there won't be a Ukraine.

8 downvoters don't understand demographics.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:01 pm to
Russia is preserving the young men it wants to survive, too... it's disposing of the males it doesn't want around.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 4:03 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 8:11 pm to
ISW Update Aug 2

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Key Takeaways:

Ukrainian forces reportedly struck four Russian S-400 air defense missile launchers, an S-500 air defense system, and the Russian Black Sea Fleet's (BSF) Rostov-on-Don Kilo-class submarine in occupied Crimea on August 2.

Ukrainian forces also conducted a series of successful drone strikes against likely military targets in Rostov, Kursk, and Belgorod oblasts on August 3.

The Kremlin reportedly planned to transfer unspecified missiles and other military equipment to the Houthis in Yemen but did not transfer the materiel following diplomatic pressure. Russia's reported plan highlights its growing military partnership with Iran and suggests that Russia likely aims to leverage Iranian proxies to indirectly confront the West and shape Western decision making.

Putin's willingness to consider supporting the Houthis as they attack Israel and international shipping is part of deepening Russian-Iranian military cooperation and Russia's increasing reliance on Iran for high-precision weapons and components.

Russian forces recently advanced near Kreminna, Siversk, and Chasiv Yar.

Russian authorities continue efforts to financially incentivize Russian military service in Ukraine.


Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45549 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 8:18 pm to
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Russia is preserving the young men it wants to survive, too... it's disposing of the males it doesn't want around.


I wonder what all the 18-25 year old Russian women will do for mates? Russia has lost 100,000-500,000 men. Will the Russian women turn into home wreckers and try to steal another woman’s husband or turn to foreigners?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:09 pm to
Russian Mailorder Brides has been a cottage industry for decades... even when the young men outside of the few big metros were there, they had no employment prospects... the marriage rate in Russia was very low, the divorce rates among those marriages was very high.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45549 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:40 pm to
Did we ever get confirmation or discreditation of the Ukrainian claims about sinking the submarine?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:58 pm to
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I wonder what all the 18-25 year old Russian women will do for mates? Russia has lost 100,000-500,000 men. Will the Russian women turn into home wreckers and try to steal another woman’s husband or turn to foreigners?


I don't know but a friend who worked in Siberia had a several day stop in Moscow going and coming. He said that they all wanted American penis at least it got erect and lasted more than 2 minutes besides not being miniscule
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8589 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:02 pm to
Yea the satellite photos show it there then gone. I guess it’s sitting on the bottom of the Sevastopol Bay. It also seems that Ukraine has hit Morozovsk airfield yet again. No word on the damages.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10971 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:05 pm to
in 1997 the Russian hookers were all over the first class hotels in Dubai .
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45549 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:14 pm to
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Yea the satellite photos show it there then gone.


Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 1:35 am to
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in 1997 the Russian hookers were all over the first class hotels in Dubai .


For the poor women of Russia, kidnapping by the mob and human trafficking is also a big problem.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:19 am to
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Yea the satellite photos show it there then gone. I guess it’s sitting on the bottom of the Sevastopol Bay.


Without its crew of 52?
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:22 am to
What's the time lapse of the sat imagery?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:27 am to
Lack of water and cholera hit Crimea as well as Russian troops in the occupied part of Kherson Obast.

LINK
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 8:45 am
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