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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:45 pm to
Half the government is far-right and the center has aligned with tankies, which constitute the other half.

History sure does like to rhyme.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:45 pm to
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I’m not going to pretend to be very knowledgeable about the shitshow that is French politics but Melenchon seems like a tankie. The Pyrrhic victory the center left coalition is celebrating will be short lived and things are going to get ugly real fast.


the ugliest it can get is deadlock...

I don't think Melenchon is going to be Prime Minister... I don't think the other parties the coalition will let that happen, nor will Macron...

But we will see...

But importantly it doesn't seem as if anything will change in regards to Ukraine.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:57 pm to
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the ugliest it can get is deadlock... I don't think Melenchon is going to b


Deadlock will lead to chaos and one extreme will capitalize on that.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:02 pm to
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Deadlock will lead to chaos and one extreme will capitalize on that.


Macron's party still has a big chunk of reps... there's parties in the Left Coalition that are more to the center, so if these need to be peeled away to get some things done it will happen. The Left Coalition is a big group of people who don't want the same things and don't get along... just like the Democratic party coalition, here!
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:13 pm to
It’s actually a completely normal thing and the aircraft isn’t in any kind of immediate danger. It’s called speed tape and we use it all the time for minor repairs like small cracks or chipped paint on the aircraft’s skin. You want a really smooth surface on the wings in particular for the air to pass smoothly over it. We actually were delayed about an hour a few weeks back in Singapore for that exact issue when I did the preflight walk around of the aircraft and noticed some small abrasions on the flap of one of the wings. No big deal.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13319 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:15 pm to
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Embarrass NATO/the west by not being driven back/defeated by all of the weapons systems flowing into Ukrainian hands.


Quite the opposite has happened.

Russia thought this war would be over in less than a week. They sent MPs for crowd control, and units whose only change of clothes were parade uniforms. They are quickly running out of their 3rd generation MBTs. And their 4th generation MBTs (they announced that they would produce 2400 of them by the year 2025) apparently don't even exist. They claimed that their 400 series missile defense system was the best in the world, but it can't even defend itsef from our 50 year old ground attack systems. They never even gained air superiority over a country with no real air force. And they lost their Black Sea bases and most of their fleet to a Navy with no ships.

NATO is kicking their arse with 50 year old stuff left over from a cold war that ended 30 years ago.

Far from embarrassing NATO, they have basically embarrassed themselves.

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mpact the west (especially American) economy by sending billions of dollars in weapons/supplies/support to Ukraine that could have been used in other places.


Wars create artificial bounces in the economy. They don't drag on the economy for years or even decades. The problem with wars long term is that you waste resources like men and material on an endeavor that doesn't produce anything. So a vessel patrolling the seas uses up resources. But if that same vessel was searching for, or drilling for, oil then it would be actually producing things.

But this inefficient allocation of resources doesn't show up in the economy for a long, long time. Sort of like building a bridge to nowhere. It's an artificial sugar high that is effecting Russia as well as the US and the EU. So the short term effect is a positive for all economies involved.

But we are spending about one quarter of one percent of our GDP on this war. Russia is spending 8% of its GDP.

Which one will be effected the most?

Your argument is simply backwards
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:22 pm to
Poland is considering transferring its last operational squadron of 20 Mig-29s to Ukraine. It probably won’t happen though until Poland gets a few more F-35s off the production line to take their place.

LINK
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:29 pm to
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It’s actually a completely normal thing and the aircraft isn’t in any kind of immediate danger. It’s called speed tape and we use it all the time for minor repairs like small cracks or chipped paint on the aircraft’s skin. You want a really smooth surface on the wings in particular for the air to pass smoothly over it. We actually were delayed about an hour a few weeks back in Singapore for that exact issue when I did the preflight walk around of the aircraft and noticed some small abrasions on the flap of one of the wings. No big deal.


okay, thanks... in the context it would've had me worried, as it did the passenger who posted it...
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4355 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:38 pm to
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That’s just absolutely horrible and a new low for Russia when I honestly didn’t think it was possible for it to happen. A children’s hospital? That goes beyond even a general civilian target which is terrible enough but they decide they need to kill sick kids. Seeing those photos of the kids with cancer being forced to get chemo treatments outside in the summer heat is heartbreaking. It’s funny when things like this happen you sure don’t see any frickstick Putin fanboys around much. Hard to put any type of spin on something that horrendous.
Bombing hospitals is standard operating procedure for Putin. The Doctors Without Frontiers organization had to stop publishing the locations of their clinics and hospitals in Syria due to this same practice.

Today's atrocity targeted not just the largest Children's Hospital in the country, but a second hospital was also purposefully struck in Kyiv today. Timed on the day before the start of the NATO summit. This is to demonstrate to Ukraine and the rest of the world that the West will do nothing to save them.

frick Jake Sullivan.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21127 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Doctors Without Frontiers organization

Doctors without borders...
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26493 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:01 pm to
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Poland is considering transferring its last operational squadron of 14 Mig-29s to Ukraine. It probably won’t happen though until Poland gets a few more F-35s off the production line to take their place.


Poland is loading itself up for bear. I guess having had your weak country divided up between Nazis and Communists, leaves an lasting impression.

Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Poland is loading itself up for bear. I guess having had your weak country divided up between Nazis and Communists, leaves an lasting impression.



It goes back much further... Poland and Russia have been conquering each other since the Middle-Ages...
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:15 pm to
And am I the only one who's worried about the prospect of a Nuclear Poland?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:17 pm to
If passengers knew half the shite we knew in the cockpit sometimes they would literally shite their pants but traveling by air is extremely safe and as long as you’re with a good company who does proper maintenance there’s nothing to worry about.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4355 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Doctors without borders...


So when you translate 'Médecins Sans Frontières', that's what you come up with?

Such a solid post.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:20 pm to
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Bombing hospitals is standard operating procedure for Putin. The Doctors Without Frontiers organization had to stop publishing the locations of their clinics and hospitals in Syria due to this same practice.

Today's atrocity targeted not just the largest Children's Hospital in the country, but a second hospital was also purposefully struck in Kyiv today. Timed on the day before the start of the NATO summit. This is to demonstrate to Ukraine and the rest of the world that the West will do nothing to save them.

frick Jake Sullivan.


If this goes the ways things have been going, this move will actually cause the US and the West to allow Ukraine to strike even further into Russia to hit military targets and airfields with their weapons...

The Russians themselves keep creating iron-clad justifications for the easing of restrictions as a defensive necessity, where the world does not view it as offensive actions.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:22 pm to
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quote:
Doctors without borders...


So when you translate 'Médecins Sans Frontières', that's what you come up with?

Such a solid post.


I don't think they go with a strict translation everywhere... I know my contributions go to "Doctors Without Borders"
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:49 pm to
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If this goes the ways things have been going,


Ukraine hits Russian refineries

Russia ups their strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure

US munitions hit Russian civilians

Russia bombs a hospital

On and on we go

No escalation happening though, lets argue about Trump or Biden... "Look over here!".

If it keeps going the way its been going then we might have bigger problems that how far we allow Ukraine to strike inside Russia.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 4:00 pm to
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US munitions hit Russian civilians


When did this happen?

The Russians have been accidentally bombing their own citizens, but Ukraine has not targeted Russian civilians.

Your pro-Russian bias is not logical.
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 4:07 pm to
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Ukraine hits Russian refineries

Russia ups their strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure



You also have the sequence of these two backwards...
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