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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/8/24 at 6:42 pm to texag7
Posted on 6/8/24 at 6:42 pm to texag7
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Well that’s factually true
What's their good stuff then?
T-14 Armata cannot even finish a parade.
The put their Terminator IFV in early one, all are gone.
Russian jets won't even fly over Ukrainian held territory any longer.
Tell us about this good stuff! We are waiting for you.
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Posted on 6/8/24 at 6:54 pm to SirWinston
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We started this war. The United States
Russia started it when they invaded Crimea in 2014.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 7:36 pm to SirWinston
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We started this war. The United States.
Yawn. Tell me about how the moon landings were fake and the earth is flat.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 7:43 pm to StormyMcMan
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OK, so what "good" stuff hasn't Russia put on the battle field
Xenia Onatopp:
Posted on 6/8/24 at 9:37 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Xenia Onatopp:
Every time I see her name I think of these:
It is a pulsing soft corol with the common name of xenia polyps.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 10:34 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The Ukrainians are getting much better use out of the Bradleys, which is why we are continuing to send more Bradleys to Ukraine, and not Abrams.
Out of 168 Bradleys sent, 69 have been blown up or captured
Posted on 6/8/24 at 10:53 pm to texag7
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Out of 168 Bradleys sent, 69 have been blown up or captured
You still haven't named any Russian good stuff.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 11:09 pm to texag7
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Nearly half of the 31 Abrams tanks sent from the US to Ukraine have already been destroyed by Russia.
$11,000,000 x 14 tanks
$154,000,000 million dollar loss
Tanks are being lost by both sides, though I think Russia is losing many more.
But the military guys here can explain that a tank by itself is just a target and they need to be used in coordinated combined arms campaigns. Mines and drones are destroying them easily in Ukraine. Mines take out a track, then it's stuck and drones finish it off.
Someone over at the Poliboard posted a story from RussiaToday (because of course they did) about how "Ukrainian Troops are not impressed by US Abrams tanks!" I think even in that article the complaining Ukrainian troops were actually complaining about how mines and drones are making them impossible to use to any degree. Still, the Ukies are living when their tanks get hit... the Russians are being cooked.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 11:14 pm to CitizenK
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You still haven't named any Russian good stuff.
They haven't rolled out the few Bradleys they've allegedly captured
Posted on 6/8/24 at 11:20 pm to SirWinston
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We started this war. The United States.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 11:22 pm to texag7
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Out of 168 Bradleys sent, 69 have been blown up or captured
Well it ain't a fricking auto show, it's war.
Do you think the US didn't lose any equipment in its wars?
This post was edited on 6/8/24 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 6/9/24 at 1:51 am to Lee B
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Well it ain't a fricking auto show, it's war.
Do you think the US didn't lose any equipment in its wars?
You touched on a salient point above: survivability. The US military has made survivability a key parameter in equipment design for decades because they know it is quicker and easier to replace equipment than it is personnel that take decades to spawn, grow, and train. The USSR and previously Russia worked on the premise they would have an endless supply of blood sacks. They seemed to have recently come to the realization that supply is indeed finite and started trying to emphasize survivability into new "objects" like the failed T-14 and Terminator. That awareness was too late to impact this conflict at least with complex equipment like tanks and other armor.
Posted on 6/9/24 at 5:08 am to texag7
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Out of 168 Bradleys sent, 69 have been blown up or captured
I'm curious where you are getting these numbers from, as we had already sent over 200 by May 17, when we announced that we were sending 100 more (and I think that those should have been delivered by now).
And the Oryx list has 83 Bradleys on the list. And, though a few of the damaged ones have likely been repaired, the number permanently out of commission is certainly in the 75-80 range.
But, yes, they get wrecked. We sent them to fight. The key thing about the Bradleys is that they wreck several times the Russian vehicles that they themselves suffer, and if they get wrecked, the fighters inside are still likely to survive.
Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:04 am to GOP_Tiger
This was from the attack three days ago.
Insane that Russia decided to never build hangars for $100 million planes. It's not like the war has been going on for a couple of years or anything.
The other point to consider is that Russian air defense isn't getting any better. They are losing too many pieces of equipment, F-16s will accelerate that destruction, and Ukraine is only building more and better drones.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Insane that Russia decided to never build hangars for $100 million planes. It's not like the war has been going on for a couple of years or anything.
The other point to consider is that Russian air defense isn't getting any better. They are losing too many pieces of equipment, F-16s will accelerate that destruction, and Ukraine is only building more and better drones.
This post was edited on 6/9/24 at 6:12 am
Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:07 am to GOP_Tiger
We still don't know if the attack two days ago at Mozdok air base was successful.
And there are reports that Ukraine has struck another Russian ship with sea drones.
And there are reports that Ukraine has struck another Russian ship with sea drones.
Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:23 am to SteelerBravesDawg
ISW Update June 8
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Key Takeaways:
The Russian military command is reportedly transferring an unspecified number of forces to the Ukrainian-Russian border area near Kharkiv Oblast, but it is unclear if the Russian military command plans to immediately commit these redeployed forces to combat or use them to reinforce the Northern Grouping of Forces to bring it closer to its reported planned end strength.
Ukrainian military observer Kostyantyn Mashovets noted on June 8 that a fraction of the reported 30,000 personnel that Russia generates each month arrives at the front as combat force replacements and reinforcements and that Russian force generation efforts have allowed Russian forces to establish only limited operational and strategic reserves.
Ukrainian forces conducted a drone strike against a Russian military airfield in the North Ossetia-Alania Republic on the night of June 7 to 8.
Russian strikes have caused widespread damage to Ukraine's energy grid, and Ukraine will continue to face serious constraints on power generation capacity.
US President Joe Biden met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Paris on June 7.
Longtime Russian Central Bank Head Elvira Nabiullina is reportedly a balancing force among Russian President Vladimir Putin's economic advisors despite pressure for Russian officials to unequivocally support the long-term war effort in Ukraine.
Ukraine's Main Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) and Russian opposition outlets reported that unspecified actors attempted to assassinate the former Russian occupation mayor of Kupyansk, Kharkiv Oblast, Hennadiy Matsehora in Stary Oskol, Belgorod Oblast on June 7.
Russian forces recently advanced north of Kharkiv City, southeast of Kupyansk, within easternmost Chasiv Yar, northwest of Avdiivka, and southwest of Donetsk City.
Russian actors are using video appeals from Russian servicemen to refute reports of high Russian losses in northern Kharkiv Oblast.
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:22 am to StormyMcMan
State-of-the-art Russian Su-57 jet struck for first time ever – Ukraine's Defence Intelligence
Roman Petrenko — Sunday, 9 June 2024, 09:06
A cutting-edge Russian Su-57 multi-purpose fighter jet was struck at the Akhtubinsk airfield in Russia's Astrakhan Oblast, 589 kilometres from the war zone in Ukraine, on 8 June.
Source: Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU), referring to satellite images of the aircraft parked at the airfield
Details: DIU observed that images from 7 June show the Su-57 intact, while images dated 8 June reveal craters from the explosion and distinct fire marks caused by the strike.
The hitting of the Su-57 is the first such case in history.
For reference: The Su-57 is a Russian cutting-edge fighter jet, capable of firing Kh-59 and Kh-69 missiles.
Russia's Aerospace Forces have only a handful of these combat aircraft in service.
Ukrainska Pravda
Roman Petrenko — Sunday, 9 June 2024, 09:06
A cutting-edge Russian Su-57 multi-purpose fighter jet was struck at the Akhtubinsk airfield in Russia's Astrakhan Oblast, 589 kilometres from the war zone in Ukraine, on 8 June.
Source: Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU), referring to satellite images of the aircraft parked at the airfield
Details: DIU observed that images from 7 June show the Su-57 intact, while images dated 8 June reveal craters from the explosion and distinct fire marks caused by the strike.
The hitting of the Su-57 is the first such case in history.
For reference: The Su-57 is a Russian cutting-edge fighter jet, capable of firing Kh-59 and Kh-69 missiles.
Russia's Aerospace Forces have only a handful of these combat aircraft in service.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:43 am to StormyMcMan
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Russian forces recently advanced north of Kharkiv City
Proof that ISW's assessment is cautious and conservative...
Geolocated action shows that Ukraine has taken some back in the last few days. This in spite of the Chechen Akmat units at the border to shoot those retreating.
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:45 am to cypher
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A cutting-edge Russian Su-57 multi-purpose fighter jet was struck at the Akhtubinsk airfield in Russia's Astrakhan Oblast, 589 kilometres from the war zone in Ukraine, on 8 June.
Especially with Russia's weather conditions, one would think that building hangars for its planes is a good idea.
Posted on 6/9/24 at 8:05 am to CitizenK
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