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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:18 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:18 pm to OMLandshark
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You’re no different than the people who called me a traitor and terrorist supporter for being against the War in Iraq and the Patriot Act. That dog just doesn’t hunt after that.
What the hell are you talking about? You didn't even answer my point. Holy hell.
Look, all you are going to do is to make insane pronostications and then never live up to your own words. You just move from hysterical take to hysterical take.
The real world exists. None of us posting have the ability to influence the real world to the degree that we share any personal responsibility in this war. We all are just sharing opinions in a thread dedicated to news about the war.
Maybe you are just angry that your viewpoints don't find purchase in the actual real world, but one has to wonder, given how much and the degree to which you've been wrong, doesn't that fact ever give you pause? Like if I was ever as wrong as you were in your sundry predictions, I would at the very least start trying to understand why I was wrong. You don't seem to even do that basic work. It's like you have retard strength of the mind, except that you are also an idiot.
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:41 pm to No Colors
Retired F-16 ace 'Two Dogs' Hampton willing to fly combat missions for Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAM5jrxXzEg
How F-16 Fighters Plan to Dominate the Sky in Ukraine
Task & Purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKT8xSe55YI
Petraeus noted that F16's could be flown from roads if the roads are kept very clean. Maybe a street sweeper needs to be part of the kit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAM5jrxXzEg
How F-16 Fighters Plan to Dominate the Sky in Ukraine
Task & Purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKT8xSe55YI
Petraeus noted that F16's could be flown from roads if the roads are kept very clean. Maybe a street sweeper needs to be part of the kit.
This post was edited on 6/2/24 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 6/2/24 at 11:42 pm to CitizenK
You don’t understand Reagan
He was morally opposed to nuclear weapons because of the risks involved. That’s why he pushed so hard for arms control.
He was morally opposed to nuclear weapons because of the risks involved. That’s why he pushed so hard for arms control.
This post was edited on 6/2/24 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:01 am to Lima Whiskey
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You don’t understand Reagan
A personal friend served as one of his aides. He initially recruited Dana Rohrbacker to work in College Republicans to campaign for Reagan for Gov of CA. That friend was actively involved in Reagan's small wars and arranged the first meeting of all the rebel leaders from Central America, Africa, and Afghanistan. He conducted a fact finding mission funded by Cato Institute to see if the Reagan Whitehouse could pull off the Small Wars concept. Each of the rebel leaders had thought they were fighting against Russia alone and were happily surprised that they weren't alone. Charley Wilson was best man at his wedding.
Now go play.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 12:03 am
Posted on 6/3/24 at 5:39 am to OMLandshark
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You’re no different than the people who called me a traitor and terrorist supporter for being against the War in Iraq and the Patriot Act
But you're still a warmongering larper
Posted on 6/3/24 at 5:50 am to CitizenK
You still don’t understand Reagan.
He wasn’t a jingoist, and he would have been strongly opposed to the war in Ukraine because it crossed one of his red lines.
He wasn’t a jingoist, and he would have been strongly opposed to the war in Ukraine because it crossed one of his red lines.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:03 am to WestCoastAg
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seems like if you were actually as anti war as you say, youd be wishing it on no one regardless of circumstance
This is particularly stupid, even for this thread.
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WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:07 am to Lima Whiskey
But NUKES, which only Russia has issued veiled threats of using.
Of course, he would have supported Ukraine, which Jack has stated recently.
Of course, he would have supported Ukraine, which Jack has stated recently.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:11 am to StormyMcMan
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The AFU may have hit the S-300/400 with HIMARS MLRS in Belgorod region
Footage of hit Russian launchers of surface-to-air missile systems, which the occupiers used to strike Kharkiv and the region, has appeared online.
Pro-Kremlin media claim that the strike was carried out on June 1-2.
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Today, a court hearing will be held in #Moldova over the head of the Gagauz autonomy, Eugenia Gu?ul, on a criminal case of illegal financing of the banned pro-Kremlin party "?OR"
Gu?ul supporters arrived at the court building. Moldovan media reported that before the start of the hearing there were two reports of an alleged bomb in the courthouse where Gu?ul's case would be heard. As it turned out later, these reports were false.
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Czechia offers to send Ukrainian refugees home free of charge - Radio Prague International
The state is ready to pay for bus tickets for 400 people and organize sanitary transport for 30 patients.
The project, launched by the country's Interior Ministry, will last from June to November. Approximately €231 thousand has been allocated for the program. Refugees will be able to take advantage of this opportunity only once.
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The Australian Foreign Ministry has said that the country will be represented at the summit on Ukraine in Switzerland not by the prime minister but by the Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme, The Standard has said.
According to the newspaper, Kyiv insisted on the participation of the prime minister or his deputy, but the Australian Foreign Ministry found the current level of representation acceptable.
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German defense minister promises Ukraine another €500 million military aid package - DPA
Pistorius said this during his unannounced visit to Odesa.
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Special forces "Akhmat" were transferred to the Belgorod region to participate in the creation of a buffer zone, Alaudinov said.
Looks like ruSSian MoD has called for barrier troops.
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Financial Times: China demands that Russia sell gas to it at "domestic" prices
Russia's attempts to strike a major gas pipeline deal with China have stalled.
"China has asked for a price close to heavily subsidized Russian domestic prices and is committed to buying only a small fraction of the pipeline's planned annual capacity," the article says.
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Next week, the situation in the power system will be more difficult than in the last days of May, said Volodymyr Kudrytskyi, Chairman of the Board of Ukrenergo.
This situation is caused by three factors:
??Two units of nuclear power plants are out of service for scheduled maintenance;
??the consequences of the shelling of energy facilities on May 31 and June 1;
??the projected increase in electricity consumption due to rising temperatures and the use of air conditioners.
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Lithuania extends agricultural sanctions against Belarus
June 3, a ban on the import of 2,800 items, including food, alcohol and tobacco, came into force. Transit of these goods through the territory of Lithuania is still allowed.
The relevant law was adopted by the Seimas of Lithuania in April, after which the government developed a list of prohibited goods.
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??The Netherlands will give Ukraine permission to use the F-16 fighter jets they transferred, including for strikes on targets on the territory of russia.
This was stated by the Minister of Defense of the Netherlands, Kaisa Ollongren
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This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 6:13 am
Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:34 am to CitizenK
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But NUKES, which only Russia has issued veiled threats of using.
Of course, he would have supported Ukraine, which Jack has stated recently.
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Russia … veiled threats of using
They’ve said repeatedly that our actions risk a nuclear exchange which will destroy us both.
They’ve even had exercises with their nuclear forces, to make the point. They’re not joking, they’re serious.
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Of course, he would have supported Ukraine
No, because of the above issue.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 6:38 am
Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:35 am to StormyMcMan
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Financial Times: China demands that Russia sell gas to it at "domestic" prices
Russia's attempts to strike a major gas pipeline deal with China have stalled.
"China has asked for a price close to heavily subsidized Russian domestic prices and is committed to buying only a small fraction of the pipeline's planned annual capacity," the article says.
Power of Siberia 2 natural gas pipeline was proposed almost 2 decades ago. Nary a penny has been spent to actually build it. The original Power of Siberia connects the producing area to Russia's Pacific Coast with a smaller line to China where it's center of natural gas production, now distribution hub is located.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:40 am to Lima Whiskey
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No, because of the above issue.
We had CIA guys all over Afghanistan helping Osama Bin Laden shoot down Soviet helicopters, planting IEDs, setting up ambushes, etc.
Why weren't we afraid of them nuking us then? And that's when their nukes actually probably still worked.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:40 am to Lima Whiskey
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They’ve said repeatedly that our actions risk a nuclear exchange which will destroy us both.
They’ve even had exercises with their nuclear forces, to make the point. They’re not joking, they’re serious.
Reagan was no OML Vagina Boy. Actually, we know that Russia isn't as serious as it plays like. We well know about how they have issues keeping both hydrogen and solid fueled propellants up to standards and that many if not most of their missiles will have problems leaving the launch sites, or land in Russia after being launched. Russia also lacks the ability to arm the nukes after launch so they all sit where they are fully armed, as opposed to the US which arms the nukes immediately after launch.
Try harder, you keep failing.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 6:56 am
Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:57 am to Lima Whiskey
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They’ve said repeatedly that our actions risk a nuclear exchange which will destroy us both.
It's actually their actions. They don't have very much geopolitical capital, hence why they retreat to the one issue that everyone takes seriously.
It's always funny to see you retcon history as though you know anything about it. If the US security state was in Afghanistan as well as running operations against the USSR in Europe, somehow the red line for Reagan would be exactly your retarded red line? The US and USSR were far closer to war during Reagan's tenure than we are now. We might get to that point between the current Russian state and the US, but that time period was also instructive to now. Did the USSR stay exclusively in their sphere of influence when they actually had their vaunted buffer zones? Everyone other than you can answer that.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:03 am to crazy4lsu
Crimea becomes death trap for Kremlin troops – The Economist
Iryna Balachuk — Monday, 3 June 2024, 09:58
The receipt of American ATACMS ballistic missiles with a range of 300 km means that Ukraine can now hit any target in Russian-occupied Crimea with deadly force, writes The Economist.
Source: The Economist
Quote: "(US President Joe - ed.) Biden has still to lift his ban on hitting targets elsewhere in Russia. What Ukraine could have achieved if it no longer had to fight with its hand tied behind its back is evidenced by the effectiveness of its campaign in Crimea.
According to Ben Hodges, a former commander of American forces in Europe and a senior adviser to NATO on logistics, the Ukrainians are ‘systematically in the process of making Ukraine uninhabitable for Russian forces’."
Details: The Economist emphasises that Kremlin leader Vladimir Putin has invested huge amounts of money in military infrastructure in Crimea, and now it is under threat.
UK strategist Professor Sir Lawrence Freedman says Crimea is a weak point for Russia - it has too much to defend there, so this is "the best way for Ukraine to put real pressure on Mr Putin in order to extract concessions in the future."
Nico Lange, a former adviser to the German defence ministry, agrees with Freedman's thoughts, pointing out that Crimea is "Russia’s most vital asset, but it is also very vulnerable."
"Significantly, Russia’s much-vaunted and very expensive S-400 air-defence system has been found wanting. Mr Lange says the Ukrainians are using decoy drones to make the Russians light up their radars and reveal their positions. The targeting data is immediately fed to the ATACMS launch crews. Within six minutes the missiles, virtually undetectable because of their speed and low radar cross-section, are hitting their targets. General Hodges notes that the S-400s are also vulnerable to sabotage by Ukrainian special forces operating inside Crimea. Each battery costs about US$200 million, and they are not easily replaceable," the publication writes.
"Crimea has been turned from being a prestige project to a drain on Russian resources," says Ben Barry of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
Ukrainska Pravda
Iryna Balachuk — Monday, 3 June 2024, 09:58
The receipt of American ATACMS ballistic missiles with a range of 300 km means that Ukraine can now hit any target in Russian-occupied Crimea with deadly force, writes The Economist.
Source: The Economist
Quote: "(US President Joe - ed.) Biden has still to lift his ban on hitting targets elsewhere in Russia. What Ukraine could have achieved if it no longer had to fight with its hand tied behind its back is evidenced by the effectiveness of its campaign in Crimea.
According to Ben Hodges, a former commander of American forces in Europe and a senior adviser to NATO on logistics, the Ukrainians are ‘systematically in the process of making Ukraine uninhabitable for Russian forces’."
Details: The Economist emphasises that Kremlin leader Vladimir Putin has invested huge amounts of money in military infrastructure in Crimea, and now it is under threat.
UK strategist Professor Sir Lawrence Freedman says Crimea is a weak point for Russia - it has too much to defend there, so this is "the best way for Ukraine to put real pressure on Mr Putin in order to extract concessions in the future."
Nico Lange, a former adviser to the German defence ministry, agrees with Freedman's thoughts, pointing out that Crimea is "Russia’s most vital asset, but it is also very vulnerable."
"Significantly, Russia’s much-vaunted and very expensive S-400 air-defence system has been found wanting. Mr Lange says the Ukrainians are using decoy drones to make the Russians light up their radars and reveal their positions. The targeting data is immediately fed to the ATACMS launch crews. Within six minutes the missiles, virtually undetectable because of their speed and low radar cross-section, are hitting their targets. General Hodges notes that the S-400s are also vulnerable to sabotage by Ukrainian special forces operating inside Crimea. Each battery costs about US$200 million, and they are not easily replaceable," the publication writes.
"Crimea has been turned from being a prestige project to a drain on Russian resources," says Ben Barry of the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:22 am to cypher
Ukrainian troops destroyed a convoy of vehicles in the Kursk region
Aerial reconnaissance of the 53rd Mechanized Brigade and the 103rd Territorial Defense Brigade detected a large number of Russian military vehicles moving in a single convoy along a road three kilometers from the border with the Sumy region.
The 15-vehicle convoy consisted mostly of KAMAZ and Ural army trucks and semi-trailers.
Soldiers of the Aerial Reconnaissance Group “Malibu” of the 53rd Brigade and Wings to Hell from the 103rd Brigade hit the lead and closing vehicles of the convoy, and then began to methodically hit the rest of the vehicles using FPV drones.
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Militarnyi
Aerial reconnaissance of the 53rd Mechanized Brigade and the 103rd Territorial Defense Brigade detected a large number of Russian military vehicles moving in a single convoy along a road three kilometers from the border with the Sumy region.
The 15-vehicle convoy consisted mostly of KAMAZ and Ural army trucks and semi-trailers.
Soldiers of the Aerial Reconnaissance Group “Malibu” of the 53rd Brigade and Wings to Hell from the 103rd Brigade hit the lead and closing vehicles of the convoy, and then began to methodically hit the rest of the vehicles using FPV drones.
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Militarnyi
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 7:27 am
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:26 am to OMLandshark
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War in Iraq and the Patriot Ac
you were right on this, i was against patriot act, ok with iraq if it was non nation building, of course we know what ended up happening
but on this, i dunno.
let me ask, what is the defense budget for? is destroying over 50% of Russia's conventional force...not a good ROI on that budget, especially when its being done without any American forces and no new weapon systems?
now i agree no cash and only older weapons from storage
i do not care about ukrainians dying to depfend their country and sure as frick dont care about russians dying. so that is not a concern for me one bit
just trying to get your views on it.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:31 am to Lima Whiskey
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They’ve said repeatedly that our actions risk a nuclear exchange which will destroy us both.
They’ve even had exercises with their nuclear forces, to make the point. They’re not joking, they’re serious.
oh fricking jesus, look i been torn on this war since the beginning but if you still take russian and their "nuclear" threat seriously than you are either naive AF or dumb AF.
all you have to do is look at their budget and know what it cost to maintain these systems and you can immediately know they have very few and with the way this war has gone you can see they are a paper tiger.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:49 am to lsu777
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oh fricking jesus, look i been torn on this war since the beginning but if you still take russian and their "nuclear" threat seriously than you are either naive AF or dumb AF.
all you have to do is look at their budget and know what it cost to maintain these systems and you can immediately know they have very few and with the way this war has gone you can see they are a paper tiger.
Well if you look at the actions of our government in the past decades in how we handle Russia vs how we handle other countries who don't have nukes its pretty clear we take them pretty seriously.
Even how we treat Israel using our weapons on Iran vs how we are restricting Ukraine is different. Heck we've actually struck Iranian personnel ourselves..... you think we would ever assassinate a Russian general and publicly claim it?
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:52 am to Lima Whiskey
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They’re not joking, they’re serious
Guys! They're really serious this time.
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