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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/12/24 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21053 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 5:09 pm to
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We replace it with way better shite.


That is way more expensive


And long overdue. The decline in our military that began during the Obama administration is continuing. We are nowhere near strong enough to deter Chinese aggression.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21053 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 5:12 pm to
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Nobody here likes Putin.



What? Last week, he was saving Christian civilization.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 5:15 pm to
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Hey Colt, do you have any pics of the fireball?


This is the only video I have seen circulating. I'm sure it's damaged but I am skeptical of the other claims



LINK
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8444 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 5:15 pm to
After months of buildup and tensions
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16156 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 5:38 pm to
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We replace it with way better shite.


It was replaced years ago. It's really old shiite
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16156 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 5:45 pm to
Definitely no major damage to a natural gas storage site.

FTR, it's underground storage either in salt caverns or depleted oil/gas wells.
Also, Ukraine one of the largest storage capacities in Europe.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45745 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:02 pm to
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The saturation of air defense systems along the front line would make it very difficult for them to operate.


Not once the SEAD missions have cleared a hole.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16156 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:03 pm to
There is no jump in the TTF trading price. So no real damage regardless of how you want there to be. It would be like an atom bomb going off if damaged.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45745 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:06 pm to


That is an explosion but it does not look to have originated 50 meters underground or be seen all the way from Poland.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45745 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:11 pm to
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Definitely no major damage to a natural gas storage site.

FTR, it's underground storage either in salt caverns or depleted oil/gas wells.
Also, Ukraine one of the largest storage capacities in Europe.


I am aware. The pro-Russian poster on X who made the claim said that 8 missiles made it through Ukrainian air defense and 50 meters of earth to explode inside the storage area. The explosion was so big that a mushroom cloud could be seen 100 kms away in Poland. Pro-Russian posters on X were jumping for joy, but not one of them can produce an image of said explosion.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45745 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:16 pm to
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Ukrainian Foreign Minister Kuleba says that Ukraine is negotiating with donor countries to receive 2 Patriot Batteries and 1 SAMP/T battery from their stocks. Delivery could take a week once the decision is made.



LINK

Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands, France, and Italy are scrambling to get SAMs to Ukraine after the EU delayed its budgeting process. Months of Ukraine saying it was running low on SAMa was not enough to get them to pay attention but one delay is spending tax dollars has them moving like faster than Cajuns eating fresh crawfish.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:16 pm to
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I am aware. The pro-Russian poster on X who made the claim said that 8 missiles made it through Ukrainian air defense and 50 meters of earth to explode inside the storage area. The explosion was so big that a mushroom cloud could be seen 100 kms away in Poland. Pro-Russian posters on X were jumping for joy, but not one of them can produce an image of said explosion.

It's been about 7 hours since the claim, and there's nothing out there about it.

Russia may have hit something, but there's 0% chance Russia blew up half of Ukraine's gas reserves without anyone saying anything for 7+ hours.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:30 pm to
100%
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:25 pm to
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It's been about 7 hours since the claim, and there's nothing out there about it.


I'm pretty sure these claims are from these strikes almost 48 hours ago. I'll see if I can find some aerial images from the past 24 hours.





CitizenK, how significant is destroying this above ground infrastructure?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16156 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:20 pm to
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CitizenK, how significant is destroying this above ground infrastructure?


The European gas market would have jumped up a good bit if any actual damage was done. Ukraine is a major storage spot for European natural gas, especially for Poland.

With that knowledge, some pipe and valves MAYBE. it's off the shelf stuff anyway not like the one of a kind centrifugal gas compressors that Russia allowed to be damaged and shut Nordstream down.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45745 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:25 pm to
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CitizenK, how significant is destroying this above ground infrastructure? The European gas market would have jumped up a good bit if any actual damage was done. Ukraine is a major storage spot for European natural gas, especially for Poland.


Per X, it’s the 2nd or 3rd largest gas storage in Europe. The fact that prices didn’t jump up means damage is not that bad.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16156 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:32 pm to
No one has storage in Europe or Russia like Ukraine has.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42775 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:34 pm to
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After months of buildup and tensions

The war began in 2014, Russia went all out in 2022, why does anyone believe the MIC is the instigator?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16156 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:39 pm to
Two refineries "permanently" shutdown, in the US, might be coming back online soon. One of them because renewable fuels loses money despite the subsidies. There is not enough available feedstock in the form of vegetable oil, or brown grease from restaurant fryers.

This is bucking the recent trend to turn vacuum gasoil hydrotreaters and hydrocrackers into deoxidation and isomerization units to turn these oils into renewable fuels.

IMO, companies are also seeing the need to replace European imports from Russia. This has been brewing before this year.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40245 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:02 pm to
Just curious: why is this down at the bottom if it’s “pinned”??
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