re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

China 100% invades Taiwan if Japan and SK start a nuke program. They’ll want to make that move while they still can be kind of a bully.

Poland starting a nuke program is probably the carrot we’re using to keep Russia from providing meaningful assistance to Irans nuke program. Betting a nuclear Iran begets a nuclear Poland.

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Weird that it was a much safer world when "America First" was in office.

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Only President since Jimmy Carter to leave office with no new wars and less money than when he entered.

Poland FM Says US House Speaker to Blame if Ukraine Fails

Johnson leads a Republican majority in the House of Representatives and has refused to put a vote on a supplemental funding bill in which Joe Biden has asked for $61 billion in assistance for Ukraine.

by AFP | February 27, 2024, 10:55 am

Poland's top diplomat on Monday appealed to US Speaker of the House Mike Johnson to allow a vote on approving much-needed aid to Ukraine, warning he would bear responsibility if Russia triumphs.

"I again appeal personally to Speaker Mike Johnson. Please let democracy take its course. Please, let's pass this to a vote," Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said on a visit to Washington.

"I'd like him to know that the whole world is watching what he would do. And if this supplemental were not to pass and Ukraine were to suffer reversals on the battlefield, it will be his responsibility," he said at the Atlantic Council before a meeting with Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

The Kyiv Post

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Why are Jan 6th dissidents in jail?

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Because they broke into the capital and attacked police officers.

Now do Navalny.

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"I'd like him to know that the whole world is watching what he would do. And if this supplemental were not to pass and Ukraine were to suffer reversals on the battlefield, it will be his responsibility," he said at the Atlantic Council before a meeting with Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

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The whole war (which Ukraine is supposedly winning according to some here) hinges on one aid package?

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Weird that it was a much safer world when "America First" was in office.

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Wait ... are you talking about the administration that had John Bolton as National Security Advisor? Rex Tillerson and Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State?

Are some idiots here really pretending that the Trump Administration was isolationist?

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Face it, there is a large faction of people here that believe Ukraine should surrender and capitulate to the Russians.

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This is tiresome. Its like the abortion argument. Both sides are talking about two completely separate things from completely separate realities/mindsets.

You think the no money for Ukraine people just want Russia to win, which is ridiculous.

I guess what would be "my" side even though I don't agree with this mindset thinks you just want to continue funding the Military Industrial Complex and at least some obvious money laundering thats happening over there (because that happens in any war... Dostum went from living in a cave to a palace in Afghanistan).

My argument is we should have taken the peace deal that gave Russians areas that are at least somewhat ethnically Russian anyway and avoided this war, and that we should focus on getting our own house in order instead of sending billions more on a fight that IMO isn't winnable.

You think we should subsidize Ukraine because Russia will look to expand more if we don't.

I get it. Just don't agree.

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If we don’t provide said security, yes, we’re a bad partner that cannot be fully trusted.

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Where does that end? We've sent weapons, money, given intelligence aid. I think we have already more than proven to be a good ally.

By that logic we would be a bad ally if we don't put boots on the ground if this Russian offensive doesn't go Ukraine's way. You cannot refute this since you said:

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If we don’t provide said security, yes, we’re a bad partner that cannot be fully trusted.

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My argument is we should have taken the peace deal that gave Russians areas that are at least somewhat ethnically Russian anyway and avoided this war, and that we should focus on getting our own house in order instead of sending billions more on a fight that IMO isn't winnable.

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Non-starter, as the deal required Ukraine to remain totally neutral.

I.e. no EU, no NATO, Ukraine remains the poorest country in Europe and they cannot host foreign armies on their land.

What Ukraine had in 2022, minus land, minus options, weaker, poorer and less secure? That’s the “deal” people wanted them to take.

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Wouldn't have avoided the war at all. Would have postponed the war by a handful of years at best.

The parallel to Hitler and Chamberlain are just too obvious to continue pointing out.

Putin is a bully who pushes until someone pushes back.

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Putin is a thug who wants to bang hot chicks on his yacht until he dies. And he will likely be replaced by someone who wants to do the same.

I don't think he is a good actor by any means, but he isn't going to risk his lifestyle on something like that. I think that position is a total misread on who he is and what his motivations are.