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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/15/24 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Has anyone mentioned or discussed Ukraine requesting rockets from Canada?

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Ukraine is urging Canada to hand over tens of thousands of decommissioned rockets that are set to be destroyed as the war with Russia nears its two-year mark. Canada is planning to soon destroy over 83,000 CRV7 ("Canadian Rocket Vehicle 7") units that were taken out of service in 2005, while the Ukrainian military desperately seeks more weapons and supplies due in part to a once-steady flow of international military aid slowing considerably this year.




Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 12:42 pm to
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That’s the problem, the neocons ultimately don’t care about America, they care about Israel, and as long as they run Washington, the US won’t be Washington’s first priority


This is why they all dislike or hate Trump and openly preferred Kacish in 2016 or Nimtata Haley in 2024. Because DJT exposed their grift to the common people.
This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:23 pm to
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Are you comparing paving a road to securing a national border? Are you actually willing to put Ukrainian aid above your own country's national border? No Border. No Country.


No. Again, you would seem to be intentionally missing the point, which is that the need to secure the border is not connected to Ukraine aid. Period.

The GOP is doing the equivalent of the idiotic climate protestors who shut down roads. Preventing people from going to work has no impact on climate change, and helping Ukraine in its fight against our Russian enemy has no impact on border security.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:48 pm to
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That’s the problem, the neocons ultimately don’t care about America, they care about Israel, and as long as they run Washington, the US won’t be Washington’s first priority.


A total fabrications.
There are conservatives eho want the border fixed and who don’t want to help Ukraine. There are conservatives who want the borde fixed and who want to help Ukraine. Most conservatives want the border problem fixed.

It’s the left who is against sealing the border.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 3:06 pm to
The idea that "neocons" run DC just shows how stupid he is. Most of the people using that word don't have any idea what it means.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 3:10 pm to
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Literally, just two months ago, the House GOP was saying that they wouldn't pass Ukraine aid unless they also got new laws that would help fix the border. That's how border security and Ukraine got linked in the first place. Have all of y'all already stuffed that down the memory hole? Good grief! Even on simple stuff, people rewrite history so quickly and then make believe that it's true.


Speaking of make believe, tell me what authority Biden is lacking today that is necessary to secure the border. Spell it out. I’ll wait.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 3:42 pm to
White House: Avdiivka may fall to Russia as Ukraine runs out of shells

by Martin Fornusek February 15, 2024 11:22 PM

Avdiivka is at risk of falling to Russian hands, in large part due to a lack of artillery shells on Ukraine's part, U.S. National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said on Feb. 15.

Russian forces escalated attacks against the front-line town not far from occupied Donetsk in October 2023. Recent reports indicate that the situation is becoming increasingly dire as Moscow's troops encroach on the city.

"Avdiivka is at risk of falling into Russian control. In very large part, this is happening because Ukrainian forces on the ground are running out of artillery ammunition," Kirby said during a press briefing.

"Russia is sending wave after wave of conscript forces to attack Ukrainian positions, and because Congress is yet to pass the supplemental bill, we've not been able to provide Ukraine with the artillery shells that they desperately need to disrupt these Russian assaults."

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:52 pm to
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White House: Avdiivka may fall to Russia as Ukraine runs out of shells by Martin Fornusek February 15, 2024 11:22 PM Avdiivka is at risk of falling to Russian hands, in large part due to a lack of artillery shells on Ukraine's part, U.S. National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said on Feb. 15. Russian forces escalated attacks against the front-line town not far from occupied Donetsk in October 2023. Recent reports indicate that the situation is becoming increasingly dire as Moscow's troops encroach on the city. "Avdiivka is at risk of falling into Russian control. In very large part, this is happening because Ukrainian forces on the ground are running out of artillery ammunition," Kirby said during a press briefing. "Russia is sending wave after wave of conscript forces to attack Ukrainian positions, and because Congress is yet to pass the supplemental bill, we've not been able to provide Ukraine with the artillery shells that they desperately need to disrupt these Russian assaults."



I’m reminded of the words of Generalfeldmarschall Gerd Von Rundstedt when Kitel asked him what they should do following the failure of II SS Panzer Corps counterattack against the British around Caen…

Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 4:53 pm to
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White House: Avdiivka may fall to Russia as Ukraine runs out of shells


Some reports have said that Ukraine was stockpiling shells for a spring/summer offensive.

I see that the elite 3rd brigade has been sent to Avdiivka to either reinforce it or to open up and cover a retreat.

The areas the Russians have recently taken to nearly surround Avdiivka aren't going to have massive defensive fortifications with deep mine fields. Time will tell.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 5:05 pm to
They have been making artillery and mortar shells. I doubt that they stockpiled enough for an offensive, but any supply officer who has not ratholed a decent amount is not a good supply officer.
This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 6:02 pm to
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The border is needs to stand on its own. If the Republicans can’t demonstrate to the voting public that it is a public welfare issue that our borders are secure.

Look around at the drugs, the criminals, the homeless, and the overall decay of our public institutions largely because they are getting overwhelmed. People across tge nation can see this.

I am pro Ukraine too, but there are legitimate arguments about Ukraine. Discussing America’s involvement in foreign affairs began under George Washington.

Border security is a way bigger issue and it should be by itself.


They problem is they won’t, they dgaf about what’s right or logical, and we won’t do a damn thing about it. Our choices are to force their hand using their rules or go do something about it directly. Option 2 clearly isn’t happening.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 6:04 pm to
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Seriously, why doesn't the GOP just say:

"No money for highways until the border is fixed."

Why?


Because they’re not serious people, seriously.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 6:08 pm to
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Speaking of make believe, tell me what authority Biden is lacking today that is necessary to secure the border. Spell it out. I’ll wait.


None, that’s why any border bill talk is nothing but grandstanding for votes of simpletons.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:04 pm to
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Seriously, why doesn't the GOP just say:

"No money for highways until the border is fixed."

Why?


Because they’re not serious people, seriously.


Because this is trust fund and the money comes from the Federal tax on motor fuels. They'd have to go back to 1956 when it was passed.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:21 pm to
The Chavez plan for socialism. Bringing millions of immigrants and given the right to vote
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:25 pm to
You missed the point RINO.
That Muslim piece of shite and his Lard arse secretary of state destabilized many countries with their color revolution so. 2014 was the time to give AID to Ukraine. Not 8 years into the war we led them into.
This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:35 pm to
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The Chavez plan for socialism. Bringing millions of immigrants and given the right to vote



Obama also sacked a lot of high ranking officer to replace them with left leaners and now many white recruits have been repelled.

The left has long feared the conservative nature of military personnel, but they are working hard to fix that.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:37 pm to
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2014 was the time to give AID to Ukraine. Not 8 years into the war we led them into.


I agree, Putin tested the waters by taking Crimea. When Obama did little or nothing; he waited. Trump was too unpredictable. He waited and challenged Obama’s VP.

Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:46 pm to
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Avdiivka is at risk of falling to Russian hands, in large part due to a lack of artillery shells on Ukraine's part, U.S. National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said on Feb. 15.


Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:52 pm to
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The idea that "neocons" run DC just shows how stupid he is. Most of the people using that word don't have any idea what it means.


Our captured intelligence agencies run DC along with shitlibs like Obama, Nance, Clinton, Biden and with the help of useful idiot neocons like you, Chaim "Bill" Kristol, Liz Cheney, tiny Adam Kinzinger, etc. You are all enemies of the American people.
This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 10:59 pm
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