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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:25 am to StormyMcMan
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:25 am to StormyMcMan
First ship with humanitarian wheat shipment in 2024 leaves Ukraine
by Vladyslav Kudryk and The Kyiv Independent news desk February 8, 2024 3:08 PM
The first ship carrying Ukrainian wheat as humanitarian aid this year, chartered by the UN World Food Programme organization under the Grain From Ukraine program, departed Ukraine on Feb. 8, Ukraine's Infrastructure Ministry reported.
The Sky Gate bulk carrier is shipping 25,000 metric tons of wheat to Nigeria.
The vessel is moving through the temporary Black Sea corridor. The shipping route was opened in August 2023, weeks after Russia's unilateral termination of the Black Sea grain deal threatened Ukraine's ability to ship out its grain.
by Vladyslav Kudryk and The Kyiv Independent news desk February 8, 2024 3:08 PM
The first ship carrying Ukrainian wheat as humanitarian aid this year, chartered by the UN World Food Programme organization under the Grain From Ukraine program, departed Ukraine on Feb. 8, Ukraine's Infrastructure Ministry reported.
The Sky Gate bulk carrier is shipping 25,000 metric tons of wheat to Nigeria.
The vessel is moving through the temporary Black Sea corridor. The shipping route was opened in August 2023, weeks after Russia's unilateral termination of the Black Sea grain deal threatened Ukraine's ability to ship out its grain.
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:10 am to LSUPilot07
Zelensky twitter:
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I met with General Valerii Zaluzhnyi.
I thanked him for the two years of defending Ukraine.
We discussed the renewal that the Armed Forces of Ukraine require.
We also discussed who could be part of the renewed leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The time for such a renewal is now.
I proposed to General Zaluzhnyi to remain part of the team.
We will definitely win!
Glory to Ukraine!
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 10:11 am
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:15 am to riverdiver
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:17 am to doubleb
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5 million
Does not equal
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500,000
I get your point but that's a factor of 10 typo
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:26 am to StormyMcMan
lol
Duh…,, shame on me, it’s an obvious typo on my part.
Thxs for setting me straight. Iwill correct my original post.
Duh…,, shame on me, it’s an obvious typo on my part.
Thxs for setting me straight. Iwill correct my original post.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:49 am to GOP_Tiger
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I met with General Valerii Zaluzhnyi.
I thanked him for the two years of defending Ukraine.
We discussed the renewal that the Armed Forces of Ukraine require.
We also discussed who could be part of the renewed leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The time for such a renewal is now.
I proposed to General Zaluzhnyi to remain part of the team.
We will definitely win!
Glory to Ukraine!
So he's getting moved to somewhere else? He's fired but reshuffled?
Zelensky did a great job keeping Ukraine together, leading the nation and inspiring foreign allies. I wonder if it's time for a "refresh" at the top, as well, however.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:54 am to riverdiver
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Maybe that’s why so much weaponry given to them winds up on the black market, it’s easier to sell it than transport it that final one mile.
Stop with the nutter talk. The real issue in Ukraine is maintenance of equipment. There is such a holdover from Soviet laziness. Oh, they can jury rig and come up with cobbled together franken weapons system, but actual maintenance on both sides sucks donkey dicks.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:56 am to RuLSU
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. I wonder if it's time for a "refresh" at the top, as well, however.
The issue, per my understanding, is that Ukrainian law doesn't permit elections during a state of emergency. I might be wrong on that but I recall that being discussed on here before
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:10 am to StormyMcMan
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The issue, per my understanding, is that Ukrainian law doesn't permit elections during a state of emergency. I might be wrong on that but I recall that being discussed on here before
What if????
What if Canada took over Minnesota, N Dakota, parts of Wisconsin, and Upper Michigan?
How would we do our elections?
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:19 am to doubleb
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What if????
What if Canada took over Minnesota, N Dakota, parts of Wisconsin, and Upper Michigan?
How would we do our elections?
Well since this has been going on since 2014 we have some insight.
Here is the last election map from 2019
LINK
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34,544,993 people were eligible to vote in the elections.[8] However, the March 2014 annexation of Crimea by Russia and the occupation of parts of Donetsk Oblast and Luhansk Oblast by separatists (since April 2014) made roughly 12% of eligible voters unable to participate in the elections.[9][5] The CEC closed all five foreign polling stations in Ukrainian embassies and consulates within Russia ahead of the vote.[10]
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:25 am to RuLSU
quote:
So he's getting moved to somewhere else? He's fired but reshuffled?
Zelensky did a great job keeping Ukraine together, leading the nation and inspiring foreign allies. I wonder if it's time for a "refresh" at the top, as well, however.
Yes.
Zaluzhny is out, but he will continue to work in another role.
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Breaking: Zelensky appoints Colonel-General Oleksandr Syrsky as the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, replacing Valery Zaluzhny.
Syrsky designed the Kharkiv offensive early in the war that was so successful, and he was also insistent on continuing to fight in Bakhmut, when all the "experts" were suggesting that Ukraine pull back.
This is a very daring, yet risky, move. My own opinion is that Syrsky might have a better strategic mind than Zaluzhny, but Syrsky is widely disliked by the rank and file. He is the opposite of an inspirational figure to lead the Ukrainian armed forces.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:57 am to StormyMcMan
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The issue, per my understanding, is that Ukrainian law doesn't permit elections during a state of emergency. I might be wrong on that but I recall that being discussed on here before
It's not just a Ukrainian thing, UK didn't permit elections while Churchill was PM, by its constitution didn't allow them
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:58 am to GOP_Tiger
Syrskyi won't be careful with the lives of his men
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:36 pm to RLDSC FAN
Read the transcripts for the Tucker-Putin interview. Great interview by tucker
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:43 pm to LoneStar23
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Read the transcripts for the Tucker-Putin interview. Great interview by tucker
Got a link? Everything I see so far says it hasn't been released yet
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:49 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The weapons were useless without the codes to arm them, and Ukraine was paid for giving them up. You could argue that they weren't paid enough, I don't know how you value them, but the weapons were just paperweights to Kiev, there was no scenario where they could find a way to arm and use them.
I believe this may have only be true in the short term. Ukraine has shown through the course of the war that they possess the ingenuity to circumvent the issue of codes and such. Given time, and not being at war per se at that time, Ukraine could have dismantled the weapons and created new. They had the scientific know how, industrial base and materials / access to the materials to manufacture whatever they needed.
I concede that doing so would have been arduous task, but its not out of the realm of possible.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:18 pm to LoneStar23
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:37 pm to pirate75
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I concede that doing so would have been arduous task, but its not out of the realm of possible.
They tried to crack the PAL, but gave up.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:45 pm to tigeraddict
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Because of the points you listed above, Russia is not willing to negotiate anything short of keeping all the territories it currently has, the removal of the current government and install Russian puppet, and no NATO for Ukraine.
If there really was a deal in place early in the war where Ukraine got provisional NATO membership (or something of the sort, I can't remember exactly) and Russia kept those territories, it should have been taken.
This war ends in a peace deal or Ukraine is wiped out. I don't think a "Russia loses" scenario exists unless other countries start sending troops, which should be totally off the table.
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