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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 1/29/24 at 6:40 am to CitizenK
Posted on 1/29/24 at 6:40 am to CitizenK
Ukraine attacks refinery in Russia.
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This refinery has had serious upgrades from 2005 to 2012. The weakest part would be the hydrogen reformer which takes natural gas and reforms it into hydrogen (plus CO and some CO2) for use in the hydrocracker. A bullseye would be the hydrogen compressor which takes the likely 500 psig hydrogen, as it comes out of the reformer, and increases pressure to 3000 psig, That would produce the biggest boom in such a refinery configuration.
Edit for size comparison A little bit larger than Valero (formerly Murphy, and before than Ingram) in Mereaux, which also had a hydrocracker installed a decade ago.
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MOSCOW, Jan 29 (Reuters) - Russian air defences thwarted a drone attack on Monday on the Slavneft-YANOS oil refinery in the city of Yaroslavl, northeast of Moscow, regional governor Mikhail Yevrayev said.
He said there was no fire and no casualties at the plant, located some 250 kilometres (155 miles) from Moscow.
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This refinery has had serious upgrades from 2005 to 2012. The weakest part would be the hydrogen reformer which takes natural gas and reforms it into hydrogen (plus CO and some CO2) for use in the hydrocracker. A bullseye would be the hydrogen compressor which takes the likely 500 psig hydrogen, as it comes out of the reformer, and increases pressure to 3000 psig, That would produce the biggest boom in such a refinery configuration.
Edit for size comparison A little bit larger than Valero (formerly Murphy, and before than Ingram) in Mereaux, which also had a hydrocracker installed a decade ago.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 7:18 am
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 7:32 am to CitizenK
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British Defence Intelligence
Probably, likely, could be, maybe, apparently...do they ever have any concrete information??? All they do is use words like this and guess...
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 7:33 am
Posted on 1/29/24 at 7:34 am to GOP_Tiger
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withdraw our forces in Syria
We shouldn't have forces in Syria.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:17 am to Mo Jeaux
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withdraw our forces in Syria We shouldn't have forces in Syria
STFU…. Everyone knows the best way to grow democracy in the Middle East is by force
Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:21 am to Mo Jeaux
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We shouldn't have forces in Syria.
Just like Obama didn't want to do anything about ISIS.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:42 am to Buckeye Backer
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Probably, likely, could be, maybe, apparently...do they ever have any concrete information??? All they do is use words like this and guess...
Have you ever wondered why Defence Intelligence uses terms like “unlikely” or “realistic possibility” when we assess Russia’s war in Ukraine?
Defence Intelligence – communicating probability
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 8:44 am
Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:57 am to cypher
Never say never.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:00 am to Rambler
We also have Steadfast Defender 24 taking place this week, a big NATO war game of around 90,000 personnel so additional refueling tankers will 100% be needed for that and as much as other air forces have grown and become modern, the U.S. still holds a huge advantage in the number of flying gas stations we have.
It looks like Russia is changing tactics in Avdiivka from a pincer movement to concentrating on attacking from the south through the residential areas of the town much like they did in Bakhmut. They are also trying to use underground service tunnels to infiltrate further into the town.
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It looks like Russia is changing tactics in Avdiivka from a pincer movement to concentrating on attacking from the south through the residential areas of the town much like they did in Bakhmut. They are also trying to use underground service tunnels to infiltrate further into the town.
LINK
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:02 am to DabosDynasty
Iraq and Afghanistan were two of the biggest mistakes this nation has made. We should have never went to Iraq and we should have gotten the hell out of Afghanistan right after we removed the Taliban.
No Nation Building!!! Trillions of dollars and blood wasted. George W Bush was/is an idiot.
No Nation Building!!! Trillions of dollars and blood wasted. George W Bush was/is an idiot.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:19 am to CitizenK
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Let's not forget bombing the heck out of Russians in Syria.
Must be a painful memory for Trinidad and SirWinston.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:04 am to REG861
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Must be a painful memory for Trinidad and SirWinston.
All of the drive by politards
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:22 am to AU86
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Iraq and Afghanistan were two of the biggest mistakes this nation has made. We should have never went to Iraq and we should have gotten the hell out of Afghanistan right after we removed the Taliban.
No Nation Building!!! Trillions of dollars and blood wasted. George W Bush was/is an idiot.
Agree, I just don’t think he was an idiot as much as it was intentional for things that don’t benefit regular Americans. By no means taking up for him. More of I’ve settled on the lens of it’s more than just a president running the show and anymore I’m not sure how much of what happens is “their decision”.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 11:25 am
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:34 am to DabosDynasty
Iraq was a mistake because we didn't have the resources to win there while we still had troops in Afghanistan. Neither war, on its own, was bad in any way. The problem was that we bit off more than we could chew. And we had some bad leaders who made some dumb decisions. Bin both cases, the biggest problem was thinking that democracy was the natural outcome -- we should have simply put strong leaders in place who were friendly to us.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:41 am to GOP_Tiger
The region was more stable and balanced with Saddam in power. As bad as that was for Iraqis on the whole it was better. Iraqis today probably argue with was better than their current state, but I can’t speak to that.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:51 am to LSUPilot07
There was a single drain tunnel they exploited to pop up behind Ukrainian forces in Tsarskaya Okhota (Tsars Hunt). They found the tunnel last year and it took a while to clear it. The tunnel was said to be long, 2k or even 4k.
When they came out, they were able to surprise the Ukrainians and ultimately collapsed their position there. It also forced the Ukrainians to abandon their position in the field to the south west.
When they came out, they were able to surprise the Ukrainians and ultimately collapsed their position there. It also forced the Ukrainians to abandon their position in the field to the south west.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:55 am to GOP_Tiger
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Neither war, on its own, was bad in any way.
Good Lord. Going into Iraq was based on lies/false intel. What reason did we have for being there? Trillions of dollars wasted, lives destroyed and for what? Look at the place today. Is it any better off than what it was before we went in? Who is back in charge in Afghanistan after we spent 20 years in that hell hole.
America's wars and in large part it's foreign policy with a few exceptions have been a disaster since Korea. Look at our leaders since then: the likes of LBJ, Clinton, W and Cheney, Obama and now Biden. Throw in the likes of Kissinger and W's foreign policy team, Obama and Biden's team of limpwrists and here we are. A history of lies, deception, weakness, squander and corruption.
IMO, we have a federal government that is corrupt as any in the world. A federal government that is unwilling to secure and defend it's own borders. Washington DC is nothing but a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:56 am to DabosDynasty
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The region was more stable and balanced with Saddam in power.
We got baited into Iraq by foreign intelligence communities. Saddam tried to build a giant cannon to fire nukes at Israel during the 80’s. Mossad killed the engineer involved (Gerald Bull) which shelved the project. But it was feared he had developed long range missiles to accomplish the same objective. All of this WMD talk was a headfake and we fell for it.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:53 pm to PrecedentedTimes
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We got baited into Iraq by foreign intelligence communities.
We went to Iraq under HW Bush after they invaded and conquered Kuwait and then threatened Saudi Arabia.
After than the Clinton administration began warning us about Iraq and WMDs. W bought into that and we went back in.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:07 pm to doubleb
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After than the Clinton administration began warning us about Iraq and WMDs. W bought into that and we went back in.
Saddam actually was trying to acquire materials from North Korea but was absolutely nowhere close to getting them let alone justifying our invasion.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:36 pm to DabosDynasty
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The region was more stable and balanced with Saddam in power. As bad as that was for Iraqis on the whole it was better. Iraqis today probably argue with was better than their current state, but I can’t speak to that.
Imagine being so ignorant as to think that the region was more stable with the dictator who invaded his neighbor to the east and then invaded his neighbor to the south, causing several major conflicts.
You really should go to the Amna Suraka in Sulaymaniyah, Saddam's regional HQ for his army and secret police.
If you go, you'll see the torture chambers, with plaster models in the exact positions that Saddam's goons kept the very real people tortured here. It's hard to see -- I didn't take any pictures.
Then, you can walk to the next building and see the photos of thousands of Saddam's victims, including most of the 8000+ murdered in Halabja when Saddam's cousin and military commander "Chemical Ali" covered the whole town with poison gas and killed every man, woman, and child in the whole area.
Then, back outside, you can see the bullet holes in the buildings from the battles from when the heavily outgunned Kurdish peshmerga took the stronghold from Saddam's army.
If you go, you won't ever come back in here with the idea that anything was ever "better" with Saddam in power.
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