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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 1/29/24 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3598 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 4:26 pm to
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The Israelis really didn't understand that, which is hard to fathom.


Or, maybe they new something we don't..

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16142 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 4:31 pm to
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It really wouldn't matter either way, chemical weapons aren't practical weapons, and they're not some unholy equalizer.


You obviously missed the near SF (San Francisco) part. I put my hands on these, nitrile gloves of course even after decon. Try harder
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16142 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 4:33 pm to
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The Israelis really didn't understand that, which is hard to fathom. They made their situation much worse.


Israel kept from sending arms to Ukraine in hopes that Putin would keep a lid on things. Try harder.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 4:41 pm to
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Or, maybe they new something we don't..


The Israelis have always been short sighted. They funded and supported Hamas in an effort to undermine the PLO, and they ended up with an enemy that was much more dangerous.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 4:43 pm to
I read your post, what I’m saying is that if Iraq had an active chemical weapons program it wouldn’t matter. They’re not very useful.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 6:15 pm to
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The only group that came out a winner in the whole deal was Iran


The Kurds might beg to differ on that point

ETA not agreeing or disagreeing with any other part of the post
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 6:26 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 6:26 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense (MoD) denied rumors about the purported resignation or dismissal of Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief General Valerii Zaluzhnyi on January 29.

Russia may be retooling aspects of its air defense umbrella in deep rear areas amid continued Ukrainian drone strikes within Russia.

Russia appears to be fueling and seizing on neo-imperialist and nationalist sentiments in Europe in order to drive wedges between Ukraine and its western neighbors.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko signed a series of economic and technological agreements on January 29 advancing the Kremlin’s efforts to further integrate Belarus into the Union State structure.

Russian forces recently advanced near Kreminna and Avdiivka and in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area.

Russia reportedly deployed more Rosgvardia troops to occupied Ukraine ahead of the March 2024 Russian presidential election.




ETA these are the claims Russia is amplifying

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Right-wing Hungarian politician and Our Homeland Movement party leader Laszlo Toroczkai stated on January 27 that Hungary should claim Ukraine’s Zakarpattia Oblast in the event of a Ukrainian defeat in the war.[16] Right-wing Romanian politician and Alliance for the Union of Romanians party leader Claudiu Tarziu emphasized on January 29 that Romania needs to “reintegrate” areas of Ukraine neighboring Romania where Romanian populations lived in order to maintain sovereignty
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26928 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:35 am to
Chemical weapons are often a problem when the wind changes in combat, but when used as an attack on a city it's only a matter of weather conditions.

I read a while back that UK and German had enough Sarin to liquidate both country's populations, but didn't use it.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:54 am to
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If people are being arrested for corruption and the funds are being seized and returned to the defense budget, that is a sign of a functioning anti-corruption system. That’s a good sign, not a bad sign.


How gullible are you? That's seriously lame af.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16142 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 5:27 am to
I am definitely not as ignorant as Kinsinger who claimed that Dana Rohrbacher might have been a Putin stooge. Rohrbacher and Jack Wheeler (a friend of mine) have a toast whenever they meet. "frick Russia" since the 1960's
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:23 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 30 January 2024

Russian independent Telegram news channel Astra reported on 27 January 2024 that Russian aircraft had accidentally
discharged two FAB-250 unguided munitions on two Russian villages in the Belgorod area. The first munition landed on a farm in Postnikov, whilst the second munition landed on an urban street in Strelestkoye village, prompting an evacuation of up to 150 civilians within a 500m radius.

This is the fourth Russian accidental aerial munition discharge on its own territory this month. In total, this is the fifth overall within a year, with the earliest occasion in Belgorod City on 20 April 2023.

It cannot be confirmed whether such incidents occur due to poor procedures when arming the aircraft prior to sorties or poor execution by aircrew during missions. It is likely a combination of both. The increasing frequency of these occurrences likely demonstrates a degree of air and ground crew fatigue within the Russian front line, as well as exposing inadequate training.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:34 am to
Ukraine Downs Russian Su-34 Fighter Jet Over Luhansk Region

Russia has lost several important aircraft in recent weeks, including three Su-34s in one incident last month and two command planes earlier this month.

A Russian Su-34 fighter jet was shot down on Monday over the eastern Luhansk region, Ukraine’s military has reported.

No further details have been reported but the aircraft was listed on the daily update from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Facebook.

The method by which the Ukrainian military destroyed the three aircraft remains unknown but commentators suggested the possible use of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system.

The Kyiv Post
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26928 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:00 am to
US Arms Sales Reach Record High

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The value of U.S. military equipment sold to foreign governments reached a record high in the 2023 fiscal year, according to the State Department.



https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/29/us-arms-sales-reach-record-high/
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21042 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:04 pm to
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US Arms Sales Reach Record High



The war is generating American jobs and profit, and yet we still have idiots pretending that America can't afford to send Ukraine our old weapons that we are replacing with newer and better equipment.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7712 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:11 pm to
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GOP_Tiger


Merchant of death. Needless death but hey, think of the jobs!
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42759 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Merchant of death. Needless death but hey, think of the jobs!


You mean Putin and Lima???
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7712 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:20 pm to
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You mean Putin and Lima???


Yes. So fricking what. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with me. Or you. They can butcher each other for another hundred years for all I care. It's none of my business.

Same for the butchering in Asia and Africa which we don't seem to care as much about.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24356 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Yes. So fricking what. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with me. Or you. They can butcher each other for another hundred years for all I care. It's none of my business.

Yet in your previous post, you were clutching your pearls at the "needless death".

You don't know whether you're coming or going.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7712 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:24 pm to
It is needless. That's my opinion. It has nothing to do with me, or you. That's objectively true.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42759 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Yes. So fricking what. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with me. Or you. They can butcher each other for another hundred years for all I care. It's none of my business. Same for the butchering in Asia and Africa which we don't seem to care as much about.


So why the anger?

But some of us care. Some of us understand what can happen if evil countries are left to their own desires. Some of us understand that promises should be kept.
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