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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:39 pm to
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RNC Research @RNCResearch · 26m Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen: "We have attempted to shield [Russia's] energy sector from sanctions...I think that's appropriate"


They’re not serious about stoping Russia.


So this was in the WSJ today LINK

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In their broadside of sanctions on Russia, the U.S. and its allies are going out of their way to spare energy shipments and keep economies humming and voters warm.
The oil market went on strike anyway. Acting as if energy were in the crosshairs of Western sanctions officials, refiners balked at buying Russian oil and banks are refusing to finance shipments of Russian commodities, according to traders, oil executives and bankers.

The self-imposed embargo threatens to drive up energy prices globally by removing a gusher of oil from a market that was tight even before President Vladimir Putin attacked Ukraine. Russia, waging war and in need of revenue with its financial system in turmoil, is taking extreme steps to convince companies to buy its most precious commodity.





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Traders are offering Urals at massive discounts—as much as $18 a barrel below the price of Brent—and even then not finding buyers. A drop in the price of Espo, a grade of Russian crude popular in Asia, suggests refiners in Japan and South Korea are hitting pause on purchases alongside those in Europe and the U.S.
“The market is starting to fail,” said a person at a major commodities trading house.



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For now, Russia is exporting about as much oil as it was on the eve of Thursday’s invasion. But those flows, based on sales made before the war, will slow drastically in the coming weeks once cargoes have been delivered, traders and analysts say.


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Monday, Indian Oil Corp. sent a letter to crude traders stating it would buy Russian oil only if delivery was included, according to a person familiar with the matter and a document seen by The Wall Street Journal. In the document, the Indian refining giant said it would no longer buy two grades of Russian oil, as well as a blend of Kazakh oil, if it had to take responsibility for transporting the oil. This was because some shipping companies are hesitant to load Russian crude, the person said.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71129 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:41 pm to
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I really dont understand why this is such a big deal. Ukraine lives next to Russia and decided to remain weak.


If Russia wants to nuke some countries in Europe its none of my business.



Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:43 pm to
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It is hard for me to comprehend that WWIII will be broadcast in TikTok. I’m getting old fast.


Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:45 pm to
The Hill: "America's strategic mistake in the Mediterranean"


As tensions between the Kremlin and NATO over Ukraine highlight Europe's strategic dependence on Russian gas, a critical natural gas pipeline stretching across the Mediterranean finds itself at the center of competing geopolitical forces. The EastMed Pipeline was supposed to diversify and increase European gas supplies, thereby enhancing the continent's energy security.

The pipeline, over 1,100 miles long and costing over $7 billion, was given "Special Project" status by the EU and hailed as a boon to EU energy independence by the United States. But in early 2022 the Biden administration did an about-face, informing allies that it no longer supported the strategic pipeline on environmental grounds.

The project was designed to bring some 20 billion cubic meters (bcm) of dry natural gas from the offshore fields of Israel and Cyprus, across Greece, to Italy and Bulgaria - much to the chagrin of Turkey and Russia, both excluded from the project. As Europe suffers from historically high gas prices, and the U.S. scrambles to sanction Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Germany, EastMed is about to be killed.

On January 11, the U.S. State Department withdrew its historic diplomatic support for the pipeline, declaring that the massive gas project was antithetical to President Joe Biden's climate goals.

Another big win by the Biden Administration.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:48 pm to
Illia Ponomarenko:
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Ukraine’s intelligence says Putin might consider imposing martial law in Russia on March 4. Absolute maniac has pit himself in a death trap with his own stupid lunacy.
What’s Putin’s end game with martial law on his own country?
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 4:50 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104157 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:50 pm to
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What’s Putin’s end game with martial law on his own country?


Not getting assassinated?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:51 pm to
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On January 11, the U.S. State Department withdrew its historic diplomatic support for the pipeline, declaring that the massive gas project was antithetical to President Joe Biden's climate goals.


Honest question, does the US support actually mean anything in regards to the construction of this pipeline or is it more like the US just saying "you shouldn't do that" and nothing happens when it's done
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40201 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:52 pm to
He's a control freak with power.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:55 pm to
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Per Reuters
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LVIV, Ukraine, March 2 (Reuters) - Over 7,000 Russian servicemen have been killed since the start of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, while hundreds have been taken prisoner including senior officers, a military adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Wednesday.



If they’ve killed 7,000 there would be some multiple of that figure in wounded in action. With numbers that high wouldn’t we be seeing more? Pics of Russians helping their friends off the battlefield? Aid? We have a lot of video/photos of other activities, but not this?

If they’re up to 100k troops that’s 7% attrition in a week.

Also, this would indicate they killed around 3,000 today alone based on their previous counts of about 4,000 up to yesterday correct? Unless there was some sort of backlog of counts by the Ukrainians.
Posted by facher08
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:57 pm to
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Maybe they got their instructions from this lady on YouTube.


That's video is old. It's apparently a Russian girl from last year.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:58 pm to
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The project was designed to bring some 20 billion cubic meters (bcm) of dry natural gas from the offshore fields of Israel and Cyprus, across Greece, to Italy and Bulgaria - much to the chagrin of Turkey and Russia, both excluded from the project. As Europe suffers from historically high gas prices, and the U.S. scrambles to sanction Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Germany, EastMed is about to be killed.

It was reported by several outlets a couple days ago that Nord Stream 2 had filed for bankruptcy. Then, Nord Stream came out and said they had not filed for bankruptcy. Now, Nord Stream says they cannot confirm if they have filed for bankruptcy.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 4:58 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:58 pm to
7000 doesn’t even seem plausible. Maybe 7000 total casualties with about 2000-2500 KIA
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 4:59 pm to
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7000 doesn’t even seem plausible. Maybe 7000 total casualties with about 2000-2500 KIA


2,000 was the number of Russians killed that was floated by US sources yesterday morning. I haven't seen a number from them today.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:00 pm to


So ummmm, yeah this is a deleted Tweet from the Ukrainian Independent admitting they’re now going to be participating in major war crimes. This is bad.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:01 pm to
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Also, this would indicate they killed around 3,000 today alone based on their previous counts of about 4,000 up to yesterday correct? Unless there was some sort of backlog of counts by the Ukrainians.

All of this depends entirely on who you get your numbers from. A sampling of figures across the board, Russians may have lost 20 to 7,000 men.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 5:02 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:02 pm to
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7000 doesn’t even seem plausible. Maybe 7000 total casualties with about 2000-2500 KIA




That’s what I thought, but everything I see is being presented as KIA, even from the beginning. We had a lower total attrition rate in WWII.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:02 pm to
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So ummmm, yeah this is a deleted Tweet from the Ukrainian Independent admitting they’re now going to be participating in major war crimes. This is bad.

They’re both eastern Slavic peoples. Neither side is going to have the monopoly on brutality in this war.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29826 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:03 pm to
Europe's hasty attempts to transition from hydrocarbons to renewables, which the Biden administration so enthusiastically supports, have left it more vulnerable than ever to Russian energy blackmail. Not only are countries like Germany burning more coal to fill the gap left by inadequate storage capacity for wind and solar energy, but critical domestic supplies of natural gas are dwindling. Reserves are already half-empty.

First, the EU has effectively abandoned the German Energiewende (energy transformation) approach, declaring natural gas (and nuclear energy) "green." It recognized that full transition to renewables currently is impossible. Second, pulling the rug from under EastMed does not align with the United States' goal of diversifying Europe away from Russian gas. It also serves as a jab against allies Greece and Israel, as Turkey stands to benefit from renegotiations of pipeline operations.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:04 pm to
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All of this depends entirely on who you get your numbers from. A sampling of figures across the board, Russians may have lost 20 to 7,000 men.


That’s kind of my point. These wild swings in figures and significant deltas between differing sources seems quite a bit too much.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:04 pm to
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They’re both eastern Slavic peoples. Neither side is going to have the monopoly on brutality in this war.


Yeah, but they’re openly admitting to doing it. Granted I think it’s more likely a Ukrainian journalist found this out and didn’t know this constitutes as a war crime.
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