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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:33 pm to
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Lack of funding did not prevent us from sealing the borders. The fact is the government led by Biden refused to


Did they fully fund Trump's wall?

Again. It's nothing but lies that you guys continue to spew in here to keep this going!

They never funded the full wall nor did they build it.

But because tigerdroppings.com user doubleb said they didn't here we are?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:36 pm to
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The war machine runs strong in this group. Nazi supporters all around.


The Nazis who just issued a statement in support of Israel?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:57 pm to
ISW Update

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Russian forces launched localized offensive operations in the Avdiivka area of Donetsk Oblast and southwest of Orikhiv in western Zaporizhia Oblast on October 9, which are likely intended to fix Ukrainian forces away from the Robotyne area. Russian forces intensified offensive operations northwest of Avdiivka near Ocheretyne, Tonenke, and Berdychi and southwest of Avdiivka on the Vodyane-Opytne line.[1] Russian forces also attacked southwest of Orikhiv on the Pyatykhatky-Zherebyanky line, and Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces advanced up two kilometers in the area.[2] The Ukrainian General Staff confirmed up to three Russian battalions conducted an attack in the Avdiivka direction, and ISW has observed footage of fighting in the area, but ISW has not observed any confirmation of these claimed Russian advances as of this writing.[3] Russian milbloggers are largely portraying the Avdiivka-area operations as a significant offensive effort aimed at encircling the Ukrainian force grouping in Avdiivka and capturing the city.

The increased Russian offensive operations in the Avdiivka and Zherebyanky areas coincide with other localized offensive efforts in Luhansk Oblast and eastern Zaporizhia Oblast, all likely aimed at fixing Ukrainian forces and preventing Ukrainian command from transferring reserves to critical areas of the front in western Zaporizhia Oblast.[7] Ukrainian officials have made a number of statements within the past few weeks to this effect, particularly noting that Russian attacks along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line are meant to prevent Ukrainians from transferring forces to Zaporizhia Oblast.[8]

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and made confirmed advances in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area. Geolocated footage published on October 9 indicates that Ukrainian forces advanced northeast of Mykilske (3km southeast of Vuhledar and about 30km southeast of Velyka Novosilka).[9] The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces achieved partial success near Andriivka (7km southwest of Bakhmut).[10] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces advanced west of Novofedorivka (15km northeast of Robotyne and 6km northeast of Verbove).[11]

Russian military leadership may have once again replaced the commander of the 58th Combined Arms Army (CAA), suggesting ongoing pervasive Russian command and control issues in western Zaporizhia Oblast. A Russian insider source claimed on October 9 that the Russian command removed Lieutenant General Denis Lyamin from command of the 58th CAA, after Lyamin replaced former commander Major General Ivan Popov on July 13

Russian forces conducted a series of drone strikes targeting southern Ukraine on the night of October 9 to 10. The Ukrainian General Staff and Air Force reported that Ukrainian air defenses downed 27 of the 36 Shahed-131/-136 launched from occupied Cape Chauda, Crimea towards Odesa, Mykolaiv, and Kherson oblasts.[13] Ukrainian Southern Operational Command Spokesperson Captain First Rank Nataliya Humenyuk reported on October 10 that Russian forces are likely conducting strikes using only Shahed drones because the Russian military is attempting to conserve missiles since Russian missile production has slowed due to sanctions.[14] Ukrainian Air Force Spokesperson Colonel Yuriy Ihnat stated that Ukrainian air defense systems will continue to operate as usual during the winter and that Ukrainian forces will strengthen their defense of energy and fuel facilities.[15]

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky announced plans to open a new corridor through Moldova and Romania for the export of Ukrainian grain.[16] Zelensky announced that the overland grain corridor will open soon during a press conference with Romanian President Klaus Iohannis in Bucharest on October 10.[17]

NATO adopted several resolutions aimed at increasing aid to Ukraine on October 9. The NATO Parliamentary Assembly adopted six resolutions related to the war in Ukraine and called for NATO countries to increase and expedite political, military, intelligence, financial, training, and humanitarian support to Ukraine and to “sustain this support for as long as it takes for Ukraine to prevail.”[18] The resolutions also called for the increased and rapid delivery of military equipment to Ukraine, including air defense systems, missiles, and fighter aircraft.


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Key Takeaways:

Russian forces launched localized offensive operations in the Avdiivka area of Donetsk Oblast and southwest of Orikhiv in western Zaporizhia Oblast on October 9, which are likely intended to fix Ukrainian forces away from the Robotyne area.

The Ukrainian General Staff confirmed up to three Russian battalions conducted an attack and ISW has observed footage of fighting in the area, but ISW has not observed any confirmation of these claimed Russian advances as of this writing.

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations near Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and made confirmed advances in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area.

Russian military leadership may have once again replaced the commander of the 58th Combined Arms Army (CAA), suggesting ongoing pervasive Russian command and control issues in western Zaporizhia Oblast.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky announced plans to open a new corridor through Moldova and Romania for the export of Ukrainian grain.

Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, in western Donetsk Oblast, in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced in some areas on October 10.

The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported that Luhansk Oblast occupation authorities are cracking down against Ukrainian underground communication networks.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5649 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:03 pm to
NORSAR: Balticconnector pipeline between Finland and Estonia damaged by explosion

Balticconnector ensures gas transportation between Finland, Estonia, and Latvia, helping these NATO countries reduce dependence on Russian gas.

The Norwegian non-governmental research institute NORSAR recorded signs of an explosion off the coast of Finland in the Baltic Sea around the time the Balticconnector subsea gas pipeline and telecommunications cable was damaged on 8 October 2023.

In its press release shortly after briefings by Finnish and Estonian government officials on the incident, NORSAR stated that evidence suggested that a powerful explosion damaged the Balticconnector gas pipeline.

NORSAR detected a probable explosion along the Finnish coast of the Baltic Sea at 01:20 (local time in Finland) on 8 October 2023. The blast was detected using stations in Finland, according to NORSAR.

On 8 October, early in the morning, the Balticconnector pipeline was shut due to fears that gas was leaking from a hole in the 77-kilometer gas pipeline. According to the Finnish operator Gasgrid, the pipeline repair could take many months.

Balticconnector is a gas pipeline and telecommunications cable connecting two NATO countries, Finland and Estonia, under the Baltic Sea. Balticconnector was opened in December 2019. The length of its underwater part from the port city of Paldiski on the Pakri Peninsula of northwestern Estonia to Inkoo in Finland is 77 kilometers.

Euromaidan Press
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:04 pm to
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Did they fully fund Trump's wall?


Only parts of it. They chose to spend money on other things.

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Again. It's nothing but lies that you guys continue to spew in here to keep this going!


I lied when I said the politicians did not decide to spend our money on the border wall? You know that’s what happened.[

quote]They never funded the full wall nor did they build it. [/quote]
Again only partially because Congress did not elect to build it. They were never short of funds.

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But because tigerdroppings.com user doubleb said they didn't here we are?

DoubleB knows what he’s talking about. Everywhere needs his moma to tuck him in.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:36 pm to
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Lack of funding did not prevent us from sealing the borders.


This is EXACTLY what you said about sealing the border.

Then, your attempt at a pivot (other things)

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Only parts of it. They chose to spend money on other things.


So there was a lack of funding.

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Again only partially because Congress did not elect to build it. They were never short of funds.


Congress holds the power of the purse, buddy. Make up your mind. If the funding was there, Trump would have built it.

Just be honest. For once. You don't have to go down with this ship. You don't have to dance every dance.

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DoubleB knows what he’s talking about. Everywhere needs his moma to tuck him in.


You CLEARLY know exactly what you're talking about. Thanks for clearing this up with your word salad. And speaking in the third person.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:02 pm to
You need to repeat fourth grade. They should never have let you go to the fifth.

The US has enough money to build walls across the Canadian border and the Mexican border; however, the government doesn’t want to fund tgese type projects. They would Esther change the climate, hire IRS agents or buy Covid test kits.

There’s no lack of funds, there’s no political will to build walls. If the government wanted to they would.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
7393 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:34 pm to
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Just to be fair there are definitely memos that show this idea was 100% thrown around, but since nothing was actually signed and agreed to its up to your particular belief system if a quid pro quo was verbally agreed to or not


Verbal consultation and notes on the subject does not equate to a guarantee, a promise, or a treaty.

The US is not obligated to hinge its foreign policy on a discussion, rather than a commitment on paper.

It is, however, obligated by a document it did sign along with the Russian Federation, guaranteeing the territorial integrity of Ukraine.


Posted by immobileman
nowhere in particular
Member since Nov 2014
1862 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:40 pm to
I know. He doesn’t want Nazis.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150135 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:41 pm to
And the Ukrainian ethnicity
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:41 pm
Posted by immobileman
nowhere in particular
Member since Nov 2014
1862 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:44 pm to
My fake news sources, come on. Did you read any of them. The Clinton’s and Obama were doing crazy shite there before you all knew the place existed. The gas/bank baron funded the Azov nazi battalion. They have bio labs poisoning the own citizens.

You people.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:46 pm to
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The US has enough money to build walls across the Canadian border and the Mexican border; however, the government doesn’t want to fund tgese type projects. They would Esther change the climate, hire IRS agents or buy Covid test kits.


You keep talking in circles.

This is where you are very disingenuous. You never said anythinf about what the government wanted or didn't want.

You specifically argued that the government funded the wall.

It did not.

That fact never changed whether the government wanted or didn't want a wall...

Again, no one calls you out for your bullshite lying and attempts to sound like you actually know what you are talking about.

You drop a few responses like you know what you're talking about and when called out and proving you have no idea; you throw childish 4th grade insults and go into damage control.

I feel like Thanos in this thread.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:47 pm
Posted by immobileman
nowhere in particular
Member since Nov 2014
1862 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:52 pm to
U.S. proganda legalized by Obama. The psyops have people on this board cheering for the wrong people.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:10 pm to
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I feel like Thanos in this thread.


I said you needed to go to bed.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150135 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:11 pm to
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The Clinton’s and Obama were doing crazy shite there before you all knew the place existed
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:15 pm to
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They have bio labs poisoning the own citizens.


This is what the poliboard actually believes.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30473 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:22 pm to
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Meanwhile, Errerwhere’s boy Kadyrov is cheerleading Hamas.


I am baffled by all the strange bedfellows this pair of conflicts is making. Outside of edge lords and people with true connections to one of the places I would have thought the Palestine/Iran/Russia triumvirate would have brought near universal ire.

I suppose I am just a simple person and my hate for Russians and Palestinians goes back well over 40 years but even if I came into 2022 neutral aggressors killing women and children purposefully are going to push me to the other side quickly.

Pro-Russia and pro-Israel seems to be at odds like pro-Palestine and pro-Ukraine. I do keep forgetting nobody here is actually pro-Russia...
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21127 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:30 pm to
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U.S. proganda legalized by Obama. The psyops have people on this board cheering for the wrong people

The bill you linked was authored by a republican... and never signed by Obama, because it died in committee
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:58 pm to
Who killed more people?

Obama or Putin?

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20971 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:52 am to
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You need to repeat fourth grade. They should never have let you go to the fifth.


They really shouldn't. I responded once and regret it. Dude thinks that ROFL emojis substitute for logic and coherence.

I just scroll past his posts now. We've had entertaining trolls in the past; he isn't one of them.
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