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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Redstick Tigah
the Stick
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:14 pm to
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We would in no way shape or form be invading Mexico or Canada


How to say you are stupid without saying you are stupid.

We have invaded both multiple times and took half of Mexico.


And when have we EVER invaded Canada?

Disingenuous at best.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:17 pm to
War of 1812
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23842 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:17 pm to
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Sure, but NATO is big enough already to deter Russian aggression, it does not need to grow to the borders of Russia.

That's not how this works.

Sure, NATO is big enough to dissuade Russia from invading a NATO member. Any country near Russia that doesn't want to submit to Russian rule has to form an alliance with NATO for protection against Russian invasion.

Any country that is willing to risk invasion by Russia doesn't apply to NATO for protection.

It is not aggression against Russia for a country to choose not to be invaded and controlled by Russia. NATO's expansion is simply a rejection by its member states to being ruled by Russia.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39614 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:22 pm to
Ya that was a thrust towards Quebec if I remember correctly.
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 3:23 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5780 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:25 pm to
That’s 100-% Soviet doctrine. They level everything with artillery then claim victory over the wasteland. Unfortunately even if Ukraine wins this war they will
Have to rebuild most of its entire eastern part of the country. There will be countless villages that just cease to exist and will never come back.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40196 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:28 pm to
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And when have we EVER invaded Canada?

Disingenuous at best.



The USA has invaded Canada multiple times.

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The Invasion of Quebec (June 1775 – October 1776, French: Invasion du Québec) was the first major military initiative by the newly formed Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War. The objective of the campaign was to seize the Province of Quebec (part of modern-day Canada) from Great Britain, and persuade French-speaking Canadiens to join the revolution on the side of the Thirteen Colonies.
During The American Revolution

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Hull began an invasion of Canada on July 12, 1812, crossing the Detroit River east of Sandwich (the area around Windsor, Ontario).[15] He issued a proclamation to the "inhabitants of Canada" indicating that he wanted to free them from the "tyranny" of Great Britain and to give them the liberty, security, and wealth which his own country was experiencing—unless they preferred "war, slavery and destruction".
War of 1812
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12267 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:28 pm to
Didn't DeSantis say he would send special forces to invade Mexico just last week?
We've invaded Grenada and Panama in last few decades, but we don't seem to want to keep any real estate.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Didn't DeSantis say he would send special forces to invade Mexico just last week? We've invaded Grenada and Panama in last few decades, but we don't seem to want to keep any real estate.


I would support the systematic targeting and killing of cartel members.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:32 pm to
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Which one keeps invading sovereign nations?


But have we asked ourselves why the invaded?

She was asking for it when she wore that mini skirt.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19751 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Sure, but NATO is big enough already to deter Russian aggression, it does not need to grow to the borders of Russia. There is a reason the Russians wanted buffer zones after WWII. It was Europe that invaded Russia, not the other way around.


There is even more reason why Ukraine hate Moscow.
Posted by Redstick Tigah
the Stick
Member since Jan 2004
95 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:45 pm to
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War of 1812


We sure did. Thanks,

My apologies to Komrade WhereisAtlanta, though he was still disingenuous.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9657 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:52 pm to
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Didn't DeSantis say he would send special forces to invade Mexico just last week?
We've invaded Grenada and Panama in last few decades, but we don't seem to want to keep any real estate.


Out of context, it would be like working with Columbia to take out cartel members in leadership positions.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145261 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:56 pm to
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It was Europe that invaded Russia, not the other way around.
what an amazingly ironic narrative
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35127 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:57 pm to
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The USA has invaded Canada multiple times.

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The objective of the campaign was to seize the Province of Quebec (part of modern-day Canada) from Great Britain,


Not Canada. That was the province of Quebec, which existed before Canada.

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War of 1812

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proclamation to the "inhabitants of Canada" indicating that he wanted to free them from the "tyranny" of Great Britain and to give them the liberty, security, and wealth which his own country was experiencing—unless they preferred "war, slavery and destruction".


Again, not Canada. Canada wouldn’t become Canada until the year of our lord, 1867, through the establishment of a confederation with “Canada” being officially formed with dominion over the 4 territories.

Words have meaning.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35528 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:58 pm to
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There is a reason the Russians wanted buffer zones after WWII. It was Europe that invaded Russia, not the other way around.

Besides being complete bullshite, as far as WW2, Stalin was more than happy to help Germany invade when he still thought he was getting a piece of the pie.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36239 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:59 pm to


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We've invaded Grenada and Panama in last few decades, but we don't seem to want to keep any real estate.


No we didn’t.

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1. (of an armed force or its commander) enter (a country or region) so as to subjugate or occupy it: "it was all part of a grander French plan to invade Ireland" Similar occupy, conquer, capture, seize, take (over),


Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6473 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:00 pm to
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Unfortunately even if Ukraine wins this war they will
Have to rebuild most of its entire eastern part of the country.


Who is going to rebuild it?

You think Ukraine will rebuild it?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35127 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:02 pm to
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Who is going to rebuild it?


South Asians and middle easterners, if modern construction in countries with a depleted male population continues with the trend it’s on.
Posted by RyanMartin835
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2015
437 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:05 pm to
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1. (of an armed force or its commander) enter (a country or region) so as to subjugate or occupy it: "it was all part of a grander French plan to invade Ireland" Similar occupy, conquer, capture, seize, take (over),


Can you read your own definition? We absolutely invaded Grenada and Panama, along with Iraq and Afghanistan for that matter by your very own definition.
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