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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:07 pm to
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We absolutely invaded Grenada and Panama, along with Iraq and Afghanistan for that matter by your very own definition.


Ww never attempted to take over, occupy, conquer Grenada or Panama.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:07 pm to
boomer humor is so cringy
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:13 pm to
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Ww never attempted to take over, occupy, conquer Grenada or Panama.



You’re the one that wanted to start playing the semantics game…so yes, we did.
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:17 pm to
Damn!

That is a wasteland.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:25 pm to
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You’re the one that wanted to start playing the semantics game…so yes, we did.


You’re right this time.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:39 pm to
The U.S will have increased their production of 155 mm artillery shells to 100K per month up from the current output of 28K per month that it is making right now by the start of 2025. By next spring production will be at 57,000 shells per month.

LINK
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:43 pm to
You do know that Zero Hedge has been a very subtle purveyor of Kremlin propaganda since it was founded, don't you? It blends in a thinking slant with some facts, sometimes completely out of context.

Tyler Durden being the consistent "author" is to target a certain Gen X and Millenial male demographic, especially of the incel variety
Posted by Pfft
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:52 pm to
And the USA will pay for it. No doubt!!
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:58 pm to
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And the USA will pay for it. No doubt!!


Of course. We have to expand our secret biolabs.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:59 pm to
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And the USA will pay for it. No doubt!!


The EU has already approved many hundreds of billions in rebuilding funds. Whatever the US sends will still be the cheapest money ever spent vs. fighting Russia in NATO territory
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 5:00 pm to
So now one can’t even state the the US taxpayer will be on the hook for rebuilding Ukraine without stupid remarks like that?

Frankly I don’t think we’ll have to pay to rebuild eastern and southern Ukraine because I don’t think Ukraine can take it back.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 5:05 pm to
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So now one can’t even state the the US taxpayer will be on the hook for rebuilding Ukraine without stupid remarks like that?





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Frankly I don’t think we’ll have to pay to rebuild eastern and southern Ukraine because I don’t think Ukraine can take it back.



You did not think they could keep the Russians out of Kyiv either.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 5:09 pm to
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You did not think they could keep the Russians out of Kyiv either.


That’s true I didn’t. But that was before I realized how inept the Russian army was. Now we’re at a stalemate. The Ukrainian counteroffensive is about as successful as the Russian offensive on Bakhmut. They’re just not advancing. They have western tanks, artillery and rockets and still can’t make a breakthrough.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 5:12 pm to
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That’s true I didn’t. But that was before I realized how inept the Russian army was. Now we’re at a stalemate. The Ukrainian counteroffensive is about as successful as the Russian offensive on Bakhmut. They’re just not advancing. They have western tanks, artillery and rockets and still can’t make a breakthrough.



They currently have less 100 western MBTs in country at the moment. The first western mine clearing equipment just arrived at the front earlier this week.

ETA: The Ukrainians were never going to be ready for a spring offensive. The spring offensive was distraction propaganda to keep Russia guessing. Unfortunately people like GOPTiger and other idiots in the west bought into it and forced Ukraine into an offensive before they were ready. Let them do their thing and see what happens.
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 5:16 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 5:16 pm to
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So now one can’t even state the the US taxpayer will be on the hook for rebuilding Ukraine without stupid remarks like that?

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 5:20 pm to
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Unfortunately people like GOPTiger and other idiots in the west bought into it and forced Ukraine into an offensive before they were ready. Let them do their thing and see what happens.


Like whom? Certainly our generals and other advisors knew Ukraine wasn’t ready? Same goes for other highly trained western military advisors.

Now Ukraine has used up a ton of its western tanks and artillery on this 5 mile push to take a tiny village called Robotyne or whatever. 10’s of thousands of casualties, many of whom were western trained troops. Now Ukraine has to start almost anew.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 5:39 pm to
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Like whom?


The dude with GOP and Tiger in his user handle.

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Certainly our generals and other advisors knew Ukraine wasn’t ready? Same goes for other highly trained western military advisors.



The western media and politicians bought into the hype thinking that 100 or so western MBTs was going to turn the Ukrainian army into the coalition forces in desert storm. The US's military advisors were told to push the Ukrainians to launch the offensive early because they wanted a major Russian defeat so they could point to a foreign policy victory over the summer. Per my sauce(s) in the UAF, when Ukraine found a weak spot in the Russian defenses in late May, the Pentagon went so far as to tell Oleksii Reznikov (the Ukrainian defense minister at the time) that if Ukraine did not launch their offensive within 2 weeks the US would reconsider giving Ukraine M1A1s from storage and instead get the export version of the M1A2 sometime in late 2024 or 2025 and they could forget about F16s. Reznikov believed the Pentagon and they launched the offensive. That is also why Reznikov was recently fired as defense minister.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51252 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:01 pm to
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Not Canada. That was the province of Quebec, which existed before Canada.


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Again, not Canada. Canada wouldn’t become Canada until the year of our lord, 1867, through the establishment of a confederation with “Canada” being officially formed with dominion over the 4 territories.


I haven’t read this thread in weeks but this is the dumbest shite I’ll read all week. We invaded Canada
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34956 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:02 pm to
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I haven’t read this thread in weeks but this is the dumbest shite I’ll read all week. We invaded Canada




Canada wasn’t Canada until after both of the times we invaded the land that would become Canada.

I’m sorry that you can’t comprehend timelines.


Do you think the United States of America existed when Jamestown was founded?
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 6:05 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51252 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:06 pm to
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Canada wasn’t Canada until after both of the times we invaded the land that would become Canada.


It was Canada. It was frequently referred to as Canada during the American Revolution. And by the time of the War of 1812, you literally had Lower Canada and Upper Canada.
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