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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:25 am to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:25 am to
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Not zero as they are using the ships to launch missiles and move materials around, but an ammo depot or rail line would probably have better impact.


The destruction, or at least severe damage, to the drydocks makes forward deployment of the Black Sea Fleet less tenable. This secures the grain supply lines and further isolates Crimea. It doesn't do much for the immediate situation on the ground but it furthers the strategic objective.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150127 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:26 am to
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Honest question. Was it Russia that had expansionist ambitions or the United States?

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Between 1999 and 2020, the organization admitted 14 additional members from Central and Eastern Europe that sought military security and political stability after the end of the Cold War.
hahahahahahhahq
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:20 pm to
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We would in no way shape or form be invading mexico or canada



How to say you are stupid without saying you are stupid.

We have invaded both multiple times and took half of Mexico.

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:36 pm to
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We have invaded both multiple times and took half of Mexico.


Let’s try to keep the discussion within the last 150 years.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150127 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:42 pm to
As crazy as it may seem, the world has changed since the early and mid 19th century

And the mexico american war wasnt over us thinking mexico was being unfair and joining a geo political alliance that we didnt like and thought was too mean
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:21 pm to
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UKR intelligence now reporting that Ramzan Kadyrov - Chechen Head of State - has fallen into a coma.

LINK

Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32892 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:52 pm to
I was about to ask how seriously should the rumors of Kadyrov being in a coma be taken.

Also rumors that it is related to drug withdrawal.

Makes me think of the detox Jordan Peterson went through in Russia a few years ago, and how he was in an 8 day coma.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24917 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:02 pm to
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This has frick all to do with Ukraine. Which president in the last 22 years hasn't made the money printers go


Seriously, you do not see that correlation between funding endless wars and how it hurts the American people and economy?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24917 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:04 pm to
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If anything, Putin sees NATO's expansion as a threat to his expansionist plans..


Sure, but NATO is big enough already to deter Russian aggression, it does not need to grow to the borders of Russia. There is a reason the Russians wanted buffer zones after WWII. It was Europe that invaded Russia, not the other way around.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:12 pm to
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There is a reason the Russians wanted buffer zones after WWII. It was Europe that invaded Russia, not the other way around


Might want to check your history there

1939 Soviet invasion of Poland

1939 Winter War between Finland and the USSR

Soviet occupation of the Baltic states (1940)

1940 Soviet occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina (Romania)

1968 Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia

This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:47 pm to
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Makes me think of the detox Jordan Peterson went through in Russia a few years ago, and how he was in an 8 day coma.


He detoxed from valium. If memory serves me correctly there are only two substances where withdrawal can be fatal, alcohol and valium. This certainly depends on level of dependency. FWIW, DT's means a grand mal seizure with hallucinations, and that doesn't come from just having a heavy party weekend and feeling like crap on Monday morning.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45549 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:51 pm to
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He detoxed from valium. If memory serves me correctly there are only two substances where withdrawal can be fatal, alcohol and valium.


It's all benzos not just Valium.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:57 pm to
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. It was Europe that invaded Russia, not the other way around.


Except for all the times Russia literally invaded Europe. Next straw man please.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:58 pm to
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1939 Soviet invasion of Poland 1939 Winter War between Finland and the USSR Soviet occupation of the Baltic states (1940) 1940 Soviet occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina (Romania) 1968 Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia


WhY aRe THey PrOvOkInG RuSsIa ?!?!
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38441 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:59 pm to
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WhereisAtlanta
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How to say you are stupid without saying you are stupid.


Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40857 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:00 pm to
Freddie conflating "Europe" with Nazi Germany ruled my a mass murdering frickhead would have been my first point but yours is well taken.

I wonder if Freddie blames all of Southeast Asia for bombing Pearl Harbor.
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 3:01 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45549 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:02 pm to
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I was about to ask how seriously should the rumors of Kadyrov being in a coma be taken.

Also rumors that it is related to drug withdrawal.


I would not take them too seriously until he is transferred to the 6th floor of Moscow Central Hospital.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28547 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:11 pm to
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I was about to ask how seriously should the rumors of Kadyrov being in a coma be taken.

Rumors should just be noted. If there is any substance to them, more will come out. This is a certified "maybe true" at this point. You are right to be skeptical.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45549 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:13 pm to
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BREAKING:

Ukraine announces it has retaken the village of Andriivka near Bakhmut


LINK

They should publish a correction. Ukraine has retaken what used to the village of Andriivka near Bakhmut.
Posted by Redstick Tigah
the Stick
Member since Jan 2004
100 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:14 pm to
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We would in no way shape or form be invading Mexico or Canada


How to say you are stupid without saying you are stupid.

We have invaded both multiple times and took half of Mexico.


And when have we EVER invaded Canada?

Disingenuous at best.
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