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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:34 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:34 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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What strong foreign policy is that? All of our fancy weapons can’t push Russia out of Ukraine, we’re losing all of our I fluency in West Africa. Most of central and South America would just as soon do business with and ally with China as the would us.
Then they will starve under Russian influence in Africa. That is going to help a lot. Lots of buyers in Africa are defaulting right and left on contracts already signed. They have no money
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:40 pm to CitizenK
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Then they will starve under Russian influence in Africa. That is going to help a lot. Lots of buyers in Africa are defaulting right and left on contracts already signed. They have no money
I know that. The Africans know that. Yet we still can’t even buy influence in the poorest part of the planet.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:41 pm to ColtRange
Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:41 pm to StormyMcMan
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Just want to point out that you are advocating for Poland to invade Ukraine as Ukraine is not requesting foreign troops on their soil. Think that's a relevant point to consider in that hypothetical
Little known fact, Poland has in fact invaded Ukraine in the past, actually right after Poland was reestablished after WWI.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:49 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
You people piss and moan when we “nation build” and when we don’t.
Waahhh we aren’t combating Russian influence
Waaahh we are arming Russian enemies
Waaahhh we’re buying influence in Europe with nato
Waaahhh we aren’t buying influence in Africa
Waahhh we aren’t combating Russian influence
Waaahh we are arming Russian enemies
Waaahhh we’re buying influence in Europe with nato
Waaahhh we aren’t buying influence in Africa
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:54 pm to Hateradedrink
I never complained about aiding west Africa or Ukraine really so I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:33 pm to StormyMcMan
At this point, I think that the Kozachi Laheri crossing of the Dnipro is more than a raid. There are several hints that this could be the start of something big, and Theiner and some other Ukrainian tipsters have hinted as much. Now, to be clear, it won't be the start of anything if Russia crushes the Ukrainians in this area, but my own opinion is that it's already too late for that, and Ukraine has a bridgehead.
Let's look at a map to see why this might be significant:
If you look just south of Kozachi Laheri, you'll see that the main east-west road here makes a big bend to the north to go around the Oleshky Sands National Park. You can see it much better on a satellite photo. It really is an area with an unusual microclimate that is literal sand dunes:
Russia isn't going to be able to keep any men or equipment in the dunes, as the men can't dig, and everything would be highly exposed to Ukrainian artillery.
That means that, if Ukraine could push south to that road, they would only have to defend their position in two directions instead of three. That group could then coordinate with the other Ukrainian beachhead near Oleshky.
If Ukraine wants to do anything in South Kherson beyond some harassment of Russian troops in a fixing operation, then what they need to do is clear a large enough area of Russian artillery to enable a pontoon bridge to be built across the Dnipro.
Don't misunderstand -- I don't really expect this to happen. I personally file the above scenario under "what happens if Russia fails to respond properly." The more likely scenario would be that Russia deploys enough troops to contain the Ukrainians to an area near the river.
Let's look at a map to see why this might be significant:
If you look just south of Kozachi Laheri, you'll see that the main east-west road here makes a big bend to the north to go around the Oleshky Sands National Park. You can see it much better on a satellite photo. It really is an area with an unusual microclimate that is literal sand dunes:
Russia isn't going to be able to keep any men or equipment in the dunes, as the men can't dig, and everything would be highly exposed to Ukrainian artillery.
That means that, if Ukraine could push south to that road, they would only have to defend their position in two directions instead of three. That group could then coordinate with the other Ukrainian beachhead near Oleshky.
If Ukraine wants to do anything in South Kherson beyond some harassment of Russian troops in a fixing operation, then what they need to do is clear a large enough area of Russian artillery to enable a pontoon bridge to be built across the Dnipro.
Don't misunderstand -- I don't really expect this to happen. I personally file the above scenario under "what happens if Russia fails to respond properly." The more likely scenario would be that Russia deploys enough troops to contain the Ukrainians to an area near the river.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:34 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Interesting take on the southern front around Staromayor'ske from this Telegram source. Further in the post it sounds like they are claiming Russia may have retaken Novoselivske which Ukraine retook recently after a Russian push.
https://t.me/s/dosye_shpiona/387
https://t.me/s/dosye_shpiona/387
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The situation is Staromayorsky and Novoselovskoye.
Old Mayorsky.
In addition to the previous post.
VSU occupied n.p. Staromayorsky, Donetsk region, and continue further pressure in this direction, where they are opposed by forces 247th Guards Airborne Sturm Regiment ( v / h 54801, Stavropol ).
On this section of the front, together with the regular forces of the Armed Forces the presence of elite units of the MTR of Ukraine, which significantly exacerbates the situation for the defending party.
Local military personnel note that if the Armed Forces succeeds in maintaining the offensive pace, this could threaten failure of the defense line with a total length of 40 km.
The randomness of planning defensive operations in this direction is also noted. Military personnel primarily indicate the unsuitability of the – commandant Colonel Popov Peter Petrovich.
«Everyone understood that if p * zdets – « tripper » it will triple» - one of the paratroopers ( comments on the situationso « affectionately » calls the soldier of the regiment of his commander because of three letters « P » in the name).
Meanwhile, updated data on unit losses in the direction of Staromayorsky was transmitted to me. As of Saturday ( 05.08 ) they amounted to: 54 – « 200 », 318 – « 300 » and 31 – missing.
Novoselovskoye.
Novoselovskoye, Swatov district, Lugansk region – last week became a theater of fierce hostilities. To be more precise, a segment 2 km long from Kuzemovka to Novoselovsky.
Here are the units 1st tank army, together with assault units consisting of former prisoners, « Storm « Z » performed the assault task villages Novoselovskoye, with an area of 1 km2.
As a result of hostilities, units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation managed to occupy the village. The Armed Forces departed from their positions.
Losses of upcoming units amounted to – 160 + person ( the exact ratio of the dead / wounded is specified), among which 5 officers died.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:40 pm to ColtRange
Thanks for posting the final results.
Any answer to this part of my post though?
Any answer to this part of my post though?
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Since you want to use this source to strengthen the substance of your view of the war you should have no problem with their other posts? It's not like Twitter polls are open to manipulation, or that random screen captures make it easy to create a false perception, right?
Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:48 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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French have the best trained army in Europe
I'll give you this.
Poland is right there w/them.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:52 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
The French army is the only European army that has expeditionary capability.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:54 pm to OutsideObserver
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Interesting take on the southern front around Staromayor'ske from this Telegram source. Further in the post it sounds like they are claiming Russia may have retaken Novoselivske which Ukraine retook recently after a Russian push.
Just to clarify, what this post is saying is that:
1)Ukraine is having success in the south near Staromaiorske, and
2) Russia retook the village of Novosilivske NW of Svatove in the north.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:55 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:59 pm to GOP_Tiger
OK, consider all the stuff posted earlier about Kozachi Laheri, and then add in this post from @NOELreports:
If Russia can't deploy some more resources soon to South Kherson, they are going to find themselves in big trouble.
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The AFU has expanded their bridgehead west of Oleshky and captured another dacha area on the left bank of the Chaika River. This part has a road towards Oleshky
If Russia can't deploy some more resources soon to South Kherson, they are going to find themselves in big trouble.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 7:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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What strong foreign policy is that?
Not the one we have now.
For reference look up Ronald Reagan.
Biden was viewed as Obama junior. Putin thought he could do as he pleased and Joe surprised him.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 7:26 pm to GOP_Tiger
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1)Ukraine is having success in the south near Staromaiorske, and
Sorry I should have clarified it since the Staromayor'ske part can be misread as Russian gains.
I've followed this channel for awhile, they don't post a lot but seem to have access to Russian troop losses through their work, they have provided numerous examples of documents to back this up, though I can't comment on those documents authenticity.
If the losses are anywhere near the numbers they have shared they are way worse than being reported officially.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 7:51 pm to doubleb
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Such deep mining is very difficult to overcome especially when it can be refreshed by artillery.
The flip side of that is that if Ukraine in some way hits the Russians from behind, those deep minefields have the defenders trapped also.
What’s ironic is how some have loudly criticized Ukraine for using cluster bombs because of the potential to harm civilians after hostilities, but I don’t hear the same crowd damming Russia for the plethora of land mines they have used which undoubtedly will harm civilians sooner or later.
Yep. 10's of thousands of anti-tank and anti-personnel mines are vastly more of a threat than 2 or 3% of cluster bombs.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 8:44 pm to Breauxsif
Oh no, Ukraine bros! When this chicken hawk LARP thread falls off of page 1, that can only mean one thing….
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:08 pm to SirWinston
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Oh no, Ukraine bros! When this chicken hawk LARP thread falls off of page 1, that can only mean one thing….
That you're upset you have to go look for it.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:14 pm to OutsideObserver
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian forces appear to have conducted a limited raid across the Dnipro River and landed on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast, although it remains unclear whether Ukrainian troops have established an enduring presence on the east bank.
ISW will continue to offer a conservative assessment of the situation on the east bank of Kherson Oblast until or unless ISW observes visual confirmation of an enduring Ukrainian presence near Kozachi Lopan or other east bank settlements.
Talks between Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Chinese Communist Party Director of the Office of the Central Commission for Foreign Affairs Wang Yi following China’s participation in the peace talks in Saudi Arabia suggest that China is increasingly diverging with Russia on proposed settlements to end the war.
Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin is using the recent coup in Niger and Wagner’s continued presence in Africa to maintain relevance in the Russian information space.
Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka–Donetsk City line, in the eastern Donetsk-western Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Donetsk Oblast on August 8 and made advances in certain areas.
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations on at least two sectors of the front on August 8 and made advances near Svatove.
Russia continues to draw from its stock of Soviet-era equipment to compensate for equipment losses in Ukraine.
Russian occupation authorities are preparing for regional elections in occupied areas.
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