re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Oh the mind of a pinko.

You wouldn’t mind commenting on your friend Ivan nearly taking his arm off shooting an rpg like an AK, would you?

Your strange bedfellows refuse to comment on it, maybe the pinko will.

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he fact that he is the founder of PMC Wagner is written only in the English-language press.

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Reserve Lieutenant Colonel Dmitry Utkin, 46 years old. A professional military man, until 2013 he was the commander of the 700th separate special forces detachment of the 2nd separate brigade of the Special Forces of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense stationed in Pechory, Pskov Region. After leaving the reserve, he worked for the Moran Security Group, a private company specializing in the protection of ships in pirate areas. When MSG managers organized the "Slavic Corps" in 2013 and sent it to Syria to defend Bashar al-Assad, he participated in this failed expedition. Since 2014, he has been the commander of his own unit, which, according to his call sign, received the code name “Wagner PMC”.

Known for his commitment to the aesthetics and ideology of the Third Reich, hence the call sign in honor of the mystic composer. In Lugansk, the personnel shocked, changing the usual field panama for a steel helmet of the Wehrmacht - but the commander's quirks are not discussed.

Allegedly, he was killed in January 2016 near Donetsk Ozeryanovka, but in fact he is alive and well. Now he is either in Syria or in a training camp in Molkino.

He does not like to be photographed, but we found him on old frames.

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linked you a .ru site yesterday that says Utkin was the founder in an article from 2016.

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Last weekend, negotiations on Ukraine were held in Saudi Arabia. Russia was not invited to participate, but the meeting was attended by countries that take a neutral position. Does this mean that some kind of compromise solution is approaching? What impact will the negotiations have on Russia? Fontanka asked two political scientists with a pro-Russian view of the military conflict about this.

Sergei Markov, director of the Institute for Political Studies

“The United States of America wants to freeze the conflict by the end of this year. Joe Biden's campaign staff believes that if the war continues, he will lose the presidential election. The latest sociology says that only 33% of Americans are not afraid now that because of the events in Ukraine there will be a nuclear war and the destruction of America, and 43% are afraid. 10% believe that such a war is already underway.

They won't even be able to falsify the elections, because they can falsify one or two percent, well, five or seven. The United States wants to freeze the conflict on the most unfavorable terms for Russia, in order to later use them to consolidate its neo-colonial regime in Ukraine, in the format of anti-Russia, so that the Russian population makes claims against Vladimir Putin for concessions to the Americans.

In addition, they are afraid that, having repelled the offensive of the Ukrainian army, the Russian army itself will go on the counteroffensive and, so to speak, liberate a significant part of the territory of Ukraine from the Russophobic pro-American puppet regime. The US wants negotiations instead of this offensive.

The Americans hide it, but they want to leave this war until the spring of 1925. During this time, pump up a strong army and start this war again, but on a much larger scale, so that the Ukrainian army is five to six times stronger than it is now. But, of course, they hide it.

These negotiations are very dangerous because they involve an attempt to impose unfavorable conditions on Russia. As a result, the strongest anti-Russia on the borders of Russia, on the territory of the former Ukraine, should be fully consolidated. Such a brutal, absolutely monstrous terrorist regime, an eternal threat to Russia. In addition, this is very unprofitable for Russia, because it is assumed that this regime should start a large-scale war in the spring of 25 with an order of magnitude greater losses. And if now we have a mobilization of about 300 thousand people, then we will have to mobilize one million, two or three. The Americans want to use it so that Putin's rating collapses, and they can start a color revolution to overthrow Putin."

Fedor Lukyanov, Chief Director of Russia in Global Affairs magazine

“These negotiations definitely do not bring anything closer, because, as a number of our official representatives rightly noted, without one of the main parties to the conflict, they do not make sense. Only in the event that the participants count on the unconditional surrender of the one who was not invited, can one try to establish the rules of the game after and without the participation of any party. Since in this case this is clearly not the situation, these conversations have no practical value.

All participants present it in their own way. Naturally, Ukraine emphasizes that for the first time it was possible to gather those who do not participate in the anti-Russian coalition, and shows how Russia is isolated. Those who took part, but are not US allies, speak of the need for discussion in all formats. I think that in general this can be seen as evidence that the world community is really tired of this conflict. In different versions, in different forms, measures will be taken in order to start this very process. Without the participation of Russia, this is impossible, but, probably, [negotiations are] signs that movement in this direction has begun.

It was impossible to make a joint statement [on the results of the negotiations] because the positions do not coincide. The countries of the Global South are not ready to join the formulations insisted on by the West and Ukraine, and the West and Ukraine are not yet at all ready for any other formulations.

As for the involvement of the Global South... Why not? They have never declared that they support the Russian military campaign against Ukraine. They said that the situation is complicated, we need to sort it out, we need to stop the armed conflict and the suffering of people as soon as possible, we need very serious conversations, and so on. The global south does not support the desire of the West and Ukraine to place full responsibility on Russia, but it does not support a special military operation either. The global south, if possible, participates both there and there. In a sense, the Russia-Africa summit and this meeting in Saudi Arabia are manifestations of one common process. The global south is becoming more important to everyone, but is itself trying to maneuver between .

In any case, the process is now at a stage where it makes no sense to withdraw theses from there. And for Russia, I think, these negotiations mean practically nothing. Indeed, they do not have any influence on the course, in fact, of the campaign. Russia, of course, is closely following international sentiments, precisely from the point of view of this very fatigue.

It has two sides. Those who support Ukraine are starting to get bored with this whole epic, they are starting to look at the possibilities to somehow start rounding it off. Those countries that have not joined the anti-Russian actions also see the negative effect that this company has on the world, and begin to speak more clearly about it. We saw this at the Russia-Africa summit. The African initiative, which is headed by the President of South Africa… they spoke quite clearly on some issues, saying that they, in general, did not really like what was happening. This must be closely monitored: the balance, so to speak, of fatigue and readiness to continue.

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Let me remind you that there were no PMCs in Russia before at all. It didn't even have laws.

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The battalion with heavy infantry weapons and armored vehicles, known as the "Wagner PMC", does not formally exist. Such a unit cannot be found either in law enforcement agencies or in the register of legal entities. The fighters are not in the formal lists of personnel. It cannot exist: in Russia there is no law on private military companies, and there cannot be a civil organization that has armored combat vehicles, portable anti-aircraft systems and mortars in its arsenal. But she is.

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You are single handedly ruining this thread. frick you. This is a thread about the actual military maneuvers and combat actions. You and your fellow shite posters need to take your nonsense elsewhere.

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There isn't much to talk about on that front. However, it is nice to hear a Russian's perspective even if it is warped by propaganda.

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75% of Americans say it's important to the United States that Ukraine wins the war against Russian aggression, including bipartisan supermajorities of Democrats (86%) and Republicans (71%)

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Key paragraph: When Americans learn the US has spent just 3% of the defense budget in support of Ukraine, people are more likely to say US aid is worth the cost:

Dem 77% (+12)
GOP 59% (+18

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