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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:59 pm to

The USA alone has more gold than all of BRICS combined but nutters gotta nut over something

No one is nutting over anything frick lips. Just stating a simple fact
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1165 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:11 pm to
We're having a small one in October. Mine we both wanted courthouse too but her mother wanted a full ceremony.

Needless to say we are doing as cheaply as possible.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8657 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:12 pm to
Hopefully it makes a difference and they use those shells wisely since I’m not sure they will get more of them. They can burn through 100,000 shells without blinking so if they are planning a big move in one sector they should conserve them for that maneuver. Clusters are about the best thing Ukraine can have to clear the Russians out of their defense lines. They are taking the hills outside of Bakhmut so they will have fire control over the city with regular artillery. Clusters probably aren’t needed there. I would guess they will be used in the Tokmak direction. If they can get to Tokmak they will have the Russians in a very vulnerable state.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8657 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:18 pm to
Me and you both my man! Her dad passed suddenly Father’s Day week last year so that’s really weighing on her not having him there but her mother wants a huge wedding also. If her father were still here he would have been on my side about making things as small and simple as possible with just the main people in our lives attending. He was from the country like me but her mom was born and bred in the city unfortunately. She’s not happy that I’m wearing cowboy boots in my wedding but that wasn’t up for discussion. Congratulations to you and yours though, I hope it’s a great day for y’all!
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Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16108 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:23 pm to
We have a lot more of them than that and scheduled by Obama EO to be destroyed at a cost.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13437 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:02 pm to
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but can still leave a lot of Unexploded Ordnance behind which is why they are Banned by 111 Countries around the World.

That's not going to come back to bite us in the arse when some kids get blown to hell down the road.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4690 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:04 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko stated that Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and Wagner forces are not in Belarus as of July 6, indicating that Prigozhin may be failing to uphold the deal Lukashenko mediated between Prigozhin and Russian President Vladimir Putin following Wagner’s armed rebellion on June 24.

Russian sources also indicated that Prigozhin is in Russia, although ISW cannot confirm Prigozhin’s whereabouts at this time.

Lukashenko appears to be distancing himself from the deal he reportedly mediated while continuing to tout his ability to mediate between Putin and a formerly loyal lieutenant in the first place, thus still highlighting Putin’s weakness.

Prigozhin’s ability to freely operate in Russia suggests that Prigozhin is still protected by some security guarantees and/or that the Kremlin continues to prioritize undermining his reputation in Russia over targeting Prigozhin physically or legally.

Select Russian ultranationalists criticized Russian state propaganda for attempting to villainize Prigozhin, however, suggesting that the Kremlin’s attempt to alienate the ultranationalist community from Prigozhin is not succeeding.

Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations on at least three sectors of the front on July 6 and are continuing efforts to gradually degrade Russian manpower and logistics assets.

Ukrainian and Russian officials largely de-escalated their rhetoric regarding the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) on July 6.

Russian political actors continue attempts to court or control Russian milbloggers, indicating that many view the milblogger community as a critical constituency.

Russian opposition media outlet Vertska reported that Russian forces and occupation authorities are conducting a campaign of systematic religious persecution in occupied Ukraine.

Russian milbloggers claimed that aspects of Russian defensive operations in southern Ukraine have severe limitations and may not be as effective as Russian sources have previously portrayed them.

Russian and Ukrainian forces conducted ground attacks along the Svatove-Kreminna line.

Visual evidence confirms that Ukrainian forces have advanced southwest of Bakhmut as of July 6.

Russian forces continued ground attacks in the Bakhmut and Avdiivka-Donetsk City areas.

Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations along the administrative border between Zaporizhia and Donetsk oblasts and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.

Russian officials continue efforts to create territorial defense units in Russian border oblasts.

Occupation officials continue efforts to forcibly assimilate Ukrainian legal and cultural traditions into the Russian system in occupied territories.

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko claimed on July 6 that Russia will transfer all planned tactical nuclear weapons to Belarus by the end of 2023, if not earlier.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21024 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:08 pm to
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We have a lot more of them than that and scheduled by Obama EO to be destroyed at a cost.


Yep. The only question is how many shells we are promising tomorrow. If we promise 100k, then we could do another 100k next month.

This is a case when it wouldn't be good to promise things that we can't deliver quickly, so that could be a factor in tomorrow's number.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16108 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:13 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 9:15 pm
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
628 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:13 pm to
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Can someone explain why other countries aren't all in on contributing to fight the Russians?
Because the war in Ukraine has shown many countries that had thought they had sophisticated and capable militaries that their capabilities are woefully under-sized to carry out anything more than the most limited-scope, short-term military operations. I think the Germans in particular have realized that it's a good thing they have the now-NATO-member Poles between themselves and the Russians.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16108 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:14 pm to
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That's not going to come back to bite us in the arse when some kids get blown to hell down the road.


Tell that to Russia which has been using them the last year
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
628 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:21 pm to
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They will meet in a month or so and hash out the new currency that bric's with use exclusively. Gold backed
Ahahahahaha.

The E.U., consisting of relatively more similar countries and all contiguous with each other, in peacetime, has had a somewhat difficult time making the Euro work as a common currency (almost-Grexit, anyone?), given the economic, fiscal, and monetary differences among the members. How could any sane person with half a clue about economics think that, in wartime and with major international economic sanctions against Russia, BRICS could make a common currency work?!

P.S.
No apostrophe, but yes all capitalization, i.e., not "bric's" but BRICS.
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:22 pm to
If this shortens the war by 6 months I'm sure Ukraine will take that trade. Also only sending the 99/100% explodable versions should help minimize the dud risk.


this may be the reason why all the crazy talk about the nuke plant.
russians are scared. russian media is saying they have located and IDed the 9th and 10th corps of the ukr army and are openly saying they have nothing to stop them when they kick off. right near the nuke plant.


LINK

here is what rybar is posting. in the area behind the plant they have no combat firepower, and on the entire line they only have the 36th RU brigade as a res force... everything from the 19th and 42nd div is engaged. the 20the div was supposed to block but they moved it to bakhmut last month.

LINK

the ONLY units i can see moving are some of the TD battalions or brigades to try to block and buy time for ????. the most probable is the 214th tank... and they are equipped with a mix of T62s and T55s... soooooo

LINK

Here's some speculation about the Russian fears that they have no combat power behind the nuke plant. If it's true could be why Russia has been retreating from that area.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30648 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

Clusters are about the best thing Ukraine can have to clear the Russians out of their defense lines.


I have never seen the shells but I have seen cluster bombs (Rockeye) dropped by fast movers during a "Million Dollar Minute" (never in combat) and those things are fricking terrifying. I understand the idea of not using cluster munitions due to the long term effects of the duds but existential crises is thrown around a lot but it is pretty accurate for Ukraine currently.



If you wanna see some babushkas explaining the economics of BRICS here is a 1:28 minute video that starts with one crumpling a dollar and later stomping on more. They suggest Kresnodar (their city) be the financial hub for the currency. Babushkas are the scariest old school hardliners left in Russia.

Twitter
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16108 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

If you wanna see some babushkas explaining the economics of BRICS here is a 1:28 minute video that starts with one crumpling a dollar and later stomping on more. They suggest Kresnodar (their city) be the financial hub for the currency. Babushkas are the scariest old school hardliners left in Russia.


For the babushkas and politards, all of BRICS combined has 2/3 of the gold reserves that the USA has. It's top holder is 5th in the world behind the USA, Germany, France and Italy. The top 4 have half the gold reserves in the world.
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
784 posts
Posted on 7/7/23 at 2:12 am to
quote:

If you wanna see some babushkas explaining the economics of BRICS here is a 1:28 minute video that starts with one crumpling a dollar and later stomping on more. They suggest Kresnodar (their city) be the financial hub for the currency. Babushkas are the scariest old school hardliners left in Russia.


Apparently the main speaker in your video is a expert on how to destroy tanks too - at least in the below video she only has one line so doesn't need to keep looking off centre for prompts.

https://twitter.com/MercuryBarbora/status/1623600913943302146 - Video

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30648 posts
Posted on 7/7/23 at 2:51 am to
quote:

Apparently the main speaker in your video is a expert on how to destroy tanks too


I have actually seen several of these propaganda videos with her in it but I hadn't seen that one.

I came to my realization about babushkas watching Daniil Orain on his 1420 channel. He is a young guy that goes around Russia doing "man on the street" videos. Since the war started he does a lot about the war and you can always count on the Russian grannies to have hard-line positions and be incredibly negative toward the West. I can't really say much since I have a very pre-1991 attitude toward the Bear.

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5724 posts
Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:18 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 07 July 2023

On 1 July 2023, the Russian Navy established a new Azov Naval District, headquartered in the occupied Ukrainian port city of Mariupol.

Subordinate to the Black Sea Fleet (BSF), the district will reportedly command eight warships including three modern, Karakurt class corvettes which can launch SS-N-30A Kalibr cruise missiles.

The Azov Sea is a vital maritime area for Russia because it links its inland waterways to international maritime routes. In the context of the war, it also offers an alternative military resupply option should Russia's over-land routes to southern Ukraine be disrupted.

The Azov Naval District will likely focus on supporting logistical and counter-partisan tasks, freeing up the main BSF to concentrate on long range strike operations and projecting maritime power further abroad.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10143 posts
Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:49 am to
quote:

he Azov Sea is a vital maritime area for Russia because it links its inland waterways to international maritime routes. In the context of the war, it also offers an alternative military resupply option should Russia's over-land routes to southern Ukraine be disrupted.

The Azov Naval District will likely focus on supporting logistical and counter-partisan tasks, freeing up the main BSF to concentrate on long range strike operations and projecting maritime power further abroad.



This might buy the Russians a little time but once Crimea falls, they will be in range of Storm Shadow and HIMARS. Additionally, it's hard to resupply an entire military operation by sea. The US could do it through sheer volume but I don't think Russia has the horses for it.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21024 posts
Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:57 am to
So, the US has a total stockpile of 4.7 million cluster munitions of various types. We are now pledging only to send those with dud rates below 2.3%, but the testing to determine those dud rates is classified, so we don't know exactly which munitions could be sent, or how many.
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