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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:16 am to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:16 am to
zelenskyy this morning
quote:

Everyone who chooses the path of evil destroys himself. Who sends columns of troops to destroy the lives of another country and cannot stop them from fleeing and betraying when life resists. Who terrorizes with missiles, and when they are shot down, humiliates himself to receive Shahed drones. Who despises people and throws hundreds of thousands into the war, in order to eventually barricade himself in the Moscow region from those whom he himself armed. For a long time, Russia used propaganda to mask its weakness and the stupidity of its government. And now there is so much chaos that no lie can hide it. And all this is one person, who again and again scares by the year 1917, although he is able to result in nothing else but this. Russia's weakness is obvious. Full-scale weakness. And the longer Russia keeps its troops and mercenaries on our land, the more chaos, pain, and problems it will have for itself later. It is also obvious. Ukraine is able to protect Europe from the spread of Russian evil and chaos. We keep our resilience, unity and strength. All our commanders, all our soldiers know what to do. Glory to Ukraine!
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:16 am to
You kind of get the feeling this is the beginning of the end of this war.

Prig takes over and negotiates a return to 2022 borders with crimea demilitarized from both sides and a treaty to not join NATO for 10 years.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:17 am to
Video of a Russian Ka-52 being engaged by a Wagner Strela-10 AA vehicle

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672560086378598401
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A Strela-10 air defense system engages on a Russian Ka-52 but misses.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:18 am to
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If Priggy were to win this (I don't believe he will) I see no scenario where he would pull Russians out of Ukraine. He might double down.



If Prigozhin wins, he'll need the full Russian military to firmly establish control in Russia and prevent the inevitable uprisings. Chechnya will almost certainly revolt, and they won't be the only ones. Tuva (Shoigu's birthplace) would be another.

There's absolutely zero chance that Russia could simply have a coup and life would continue as before.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:19 am to
https://twitter.com/Sputnik_Not/status/1672589699280519168
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NATO prepares to airdrop more popcorn into Ukraine

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:20 am to
Video at link
https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1672610245904875521
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??Wagner in Rostov disarm Kadyrovites and take them prisoner.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:21 am to
Don’t forget the also called the reasons for invading UA a lie and said it was a mistake
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:23 am to
Russia is tearing up it's own roads to slow down Wagner
Video at link
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1672609041938251777
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Lipetsk region, pro-government Russian forces are allegedly digging the road towards Moscow to slow down the advance of Wagner's columns.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43477 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:23 am to
Putin allowing prisoners to leave early if they join the Russian Army.

We really at that point now?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5729 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:24 am to
quote:

If Priggy were to win this (I don't believe he will) I see no scenario where he would pull Russians out of Ukraine. He might double down.
JMO


I believe Prigozhin has said, within the last 24 hours, that the reasons for invading Ukraine were contrived.I'm running on little sleep so I may be mistaken though.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Don’t forget the also called the reasons for invading UA a lie and said it was a mistake



Right. And an announcement of an immediate end of the war would help Prigozhin establish international legitimacy. Lots of people around the world would thank Prigozhin for ending the war and bringing peace to that part of the world.

And he would need international legitimacy to establish his rule.

Yes, as I said, a Prigozhin victory is also likely an immediate Ukrainian victory.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:26 am to
My earlier post about the Russian 217 VDV switching to the Wagner side...now translated by @Wartranslated

Translated video at link, with appropriate caveat
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672608297566740480
quote:

Video allegedly showing a member of the Russian 217th VDV Regiment switching to Prigozhin's side. Obviously, there's zero evidence the footage is authentic.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20651 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:27 am to
quote:

I believe Prigozhin has said, within the last 24 hours, that the reasons for invading Ukraine were contrived.I'm running on little sleep so I may be mistaken though.



As wild of a dude as Prigozhin is, I wonder if the West would rather him in power than Putin. I have a hard time imagining that he would wield the same power and influence that Putin has. Would Xi Jinping have a working relationship with him? Turkey?
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 9:28 am
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:27 am to
He released a video earlier this week saying the entire Russian justification for the war was a lie. I'll try to find it, but twitter is moving so fast it's going to be deeply buried at this point.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Russian radio chatters indicate that there are possibly a number of units withdrawn from the frontlines to assist Kadyrov in re-taking Rostov.


Russia is on the brink of having to decide Ukraine or their own territory
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Prig takes over and negotiates a return to 2022 borders with crimea demilitarized from both sides and a treaty to not join NATO for 10 years.


Do you actually believe Ukraine would accept that?
Posted by Master Guilbeau
Member since Jan 2013
1195 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:28 am to
Most of you definitely post on Reddit. No chance of their being a successful coup.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73980 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

The 217th Guards Airborne Regiment of the Russian Federation went over to the side of Prigozhin.


I was dead to the world asleep last night by 11:00. Can someone give me a quick briefing on what I’ve missed? It sounds like the Wagner mutiny is spreading.
Posted by ERBlueblood
Member since Mar 2023
92 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:29 am to
He actually made such statements months ago as well.

This could be it for Putin, he didn’t think the one thru that’s for damn sure.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12549 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 9:30 am to
Wagner is gonna take over the Russian army then go back into Ukraine with more money and morale.
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