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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:41 pm to
You call common sense today “the feels”

I call common sense today “a superpower”
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:41 pm to
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No trust my common sense


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Ukraine is full of actual Nazi’s sponsored by the US government and “yes” men put in place by the Obama administration to funnel money back to DC through “corporate” donations.



Holy fricking shite, take your lorazepudding gramps
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24343 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

Utkin

Sidebar related to this Wagner drama:

His wiki page says Utkin hasn't made any public appearance since 2016. He's the founder of Wagner. Prigozhin is the supposed financier, but has been the public face of Wagner for as long as I can remember hearing about him.

Is there any chance that Utkin is dead or in the Black Dolphin prison for maybe having visions of his own coup? Prigozhin and Putin used to be close friends and is it possible Putin put Prigozhin in charge of Wagner to skirt legalities while making himself and his buddy extremely rich in the process from sources outside of Russia? (Syrian oil and African mineral mines come to mind)
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105473 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:42 pm to
Prigo claims order was given for airstrikes on the Wagner column, pilots refused.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

Holy fricking shite, take your lorazepudding gramps


Yet my track record on here for the last 18 years in 100%
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38393 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:44 pm to
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You call common sense today “the feels”

I call common sense today “a superpower”
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:46 pm to
Only in the world with which you have constructed in your mind
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:46 pm to
if that's true then wow.

Hope the babushkas in rural Russia are ready to fight. Putin is going to be throwing them at this Wagner column at this rate.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10482 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:50 pm to
Two weeks in and the much hyped “counteroffensive” that leaked US intelligence said would likely fail. . . is indeed failing.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5724 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:50 pm to
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Ask yourself the question "why today"? Why in the middle of the Ukrainian Offensive did a supposed ultra-nationalist like Prigozhin decide to declare war on the Russian MOD.


There was a July 1 deadline for wagner forces to sign a document agreeing to being controlled by the russian MoD.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:50 pm to
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Two weeks in and the much hyped “counteroffensive” that leaked US intelligence said would likely fail. . . is indeed failing.



The Wagner offensive in Russia is doing well though.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 6:55 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21024 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:51 pm to
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Ask yourself the question "why today"? Why in the middle of the Ukrainian Offensive did a supposed ultra-nationalist like Prigozhin decide to declare war on the Russian MOD.


A lot of people have been speculating about a Prigozhin coup attempt for months. Putin no doubt assumed the blind loyalty of his "friend," but everyone else could see that an increasingly powerful PMC at odds with the MoD was a recipe for disaster.

My gut is that the MoD figured out that Prigozhin was planning this coup attempt and made a direct move against him. That left Prigozhin with no choice but to pull the trigger or get arrested.

I still try to assess what Wagner's chances are and come up empty. On the face of it, a force of 25k has little chance against the Russian military.

But Prigozhin must have people on the inside to hope to pull this off. Most of his officers are former Russian army and FSB, and they all have friends on the inside.

And Wagner is proven to be the best fighting force in Russia, and the vast majority of Russia's military assets are tied up in Ukraine.



There is one conclusion that is inescapable: today is a huge victory for Ukraine -- perhaps a total victory. I strongly doubt that the Russian MoD will be able to defeat Wagner without redeploying troops from the front.

And simply the uncertainty is devastating to Russian morale. I'm already reading reports that Ukraine is attacking all along the southern front, and that Ukraine is taking streets back in Bakhmut.

Who knows how much of that is true at the moment, but it's a great day for Ukraine however this turns out.
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:52 pm to
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Prigozhin: Wagner has entered Rostov. Conscripts sent to block him went over to the Wagner side. Rosvgardia fired on them then fled.



Not starting out well for the Russian MOD.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:53 pm to
1. COVID was a bio weapon
2. It would be used to steal an election (Trump would lose in 2020)
3. Matt Flynn would win a championship his first year as starter
4. Lebron is an idiot prima donna
5. The vaccine was ineffective and harmful
6. LSU would win it all in 2019 BEFORE people realized how good we were
7. Disney would ruin Star Wars
8. Nothing would ever happen to Hillary Clinton and Q was a hijacked distraction

I could go on and on. I still have the comments up today - posted BEFORE it was “popular”

It’s not that I’m smarter…I’m just paying attention

You are being used and useful idiots
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:54 pm to
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Stidham8


You do realize that Russia's eastern front is now collapsing and Moscow will soon be a battlefield?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5724 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:58 pm to
not familiar with ASTRA but....According to ASTRA the FSB is helping Prigozhin

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:58 pm to
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Prigo claims order was given for airstrikes on the Wagner column, pilots refused.



Don't know if that's true but air raid alerts are going off in Ukraine so pilots are cool with that still
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38393 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Two weeks in and the much hyped “counteroffensive” that leaked US intelligence said would likely fail. . . is indeed failing.
You should check your email. A ton of new talking points have probably been issued in the past few hours.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21181 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 7:01 pm to
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Yet my track record on here for the last 18 years in 100%

Your spelling in this sentence isn't even 100%.
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