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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:15 pm to
https://twitter.com/dailyfusenews/status/1665508410140311553
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#Breaking Situation in #Zaporizhia direction according to Rybar

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:17 pm to
Rybar's telegram channel with supposed footage of the repelled Ukrainain attack

https://t.me/rybar/48023
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Footage of the defeat of armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the attacks on the Zaporozhye direction on June 4.

The uncovered offensive plans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, plus competent work on the advancing enemy forces, gave good results.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:24 pm to
Here is what is strange about this report. There is no mention of this on any Russian telegram channel while it was going on. It wasn't until the Russian MOD put out this statement that it showed up anywhere.

That in and of itself isn't enough to invalidate it, but it's enough for me to want to see more evidence beyond a Pototao cam video released by Rybar.
Posted by Hateradedrink
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:33 pm to
It’s probably accurate but not at the scale described.

I remember a lot of “repelled” reconnoissance in force attacks until the breakthrough last time.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:36 pm to
Here is a series of posts by one Russian telegram channel that appear to discuss this


Video at 8:52am
quote:

Zaporozhye direction
Video: @milinfolive

https://t.me/cmiye/10865
Those look like Humvee's to me, what do you see?

8:52am
https://t.me/cmiye/10866
quote:

In Rovnopol, an attempt to break through ukrov was repulsed. A lot of burnt Ukrov equipment and 200th steps.


10:48 am
quote:

It is safe to say that the enemy launched a long-promised offensive. Nearby reserves are drawn to the LBS. Far while in place.

Both near and far, we have practically not touched since the winter.
Maybe we’ll already die for them, or let them go and kill our brothers and sisters?


quote:

?? Update on the situation on the Zaporozhye front.

When trying to storm the settlement of Priyutnoye, the enemy lost 3 Kozak armored vehicles along with the landing force and retreated.

?? At the moment, the enemy's losses in this area are: 2 tanks, 8 Kozak armored vehicles, 2 Humvees and up to 80 personnel.

The enemy is expected to bet on capturing the main roads, in order to block large settlements and quickly break through to the coast of the Sea of Azov.
It should be noted that the enemy makes a significant bet on wheeled armored vehicles, Humvees with anti-tank systems are used as "infantry fighting vehicles for the poor."

At the moment, the enemy is regrouping forces and preparing for new attempts to break through, it is known for certain where the enemy will try to strike again, the following reports only when the enemy’s actions are activated, so as not to interfere with our fighters.


12:35 PM
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Zaporozhye Direction . In the Levadny area, ours beat off the second wave of the enemy.


1:23 PM
quote:

Zaporozhye at 21:00:

Our soldiers repulsed and restored all positions, the enemy is regrouping.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine were attacking with the forces of the 31st brigade.

Enemy losses:

Up to 2 MPR, up to a company of tanks, the calculation is still underway by means of objective control.


3:23PM
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Update on Zaporozhye direction:

Today ukry entered Novodarovka and Neskuchnoye. These villages are the first line, LBS, front. There is no information about the 100% presence of our troops or enemy forces there.
There was an attempt to roll over to Rovnopol, but unsuccessful. The enemy lost up to 10 vehicles there.

Actually, if someone believes that reconnaissance in force is something soothing, he is forced to upset. Usually such a good reconnaissance in battle ends in taking positions.

Yes, nothing critical has happened yet. At the moment, the enemy has not received any strategic initiative and results.






Posted by TigersSEC2010
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

Latvia provides Ukraine with 66 cars confiscated from drunk drivers


Tow yards across the US would make bank selling seized vehicles to Ukraine
Posted by TigersSEC2010
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

As a result of skillful and competent actions of the Eastern Group of Forces, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 250 personnel, 16 tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, 21 armored fighting vehicles.


Posted by TigersSEC2010
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:47 pm to
I could draw a clearer video with crayon.
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

The enemy did not achieve his tasks, he had no success.


Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:50 pm to
From War Gonzo

https://t.me/wargonzo/12961
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Results for Velika Novoselovka and Ugledar

The attack repulsed today in the Velikonovoselovsky direction was most likely only the first wave. Judging by radio intercepts and other intelligence data, the enemy is now preparing a new roll-up in this sector of the front. At the same time, it is worth noting that neo-Nazis are throwing into battle fresh, not yet really tested units in battle. Repulsing the attack, we defeated at least two companies of the enemy. Nevertheless, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are again accumulating equipment in the depths of the front. We are waiting tomorrow. Good luck to the boys who hold the line there. Separately, it is worth noting the gunners from the Kaskad OBTF, who today recorded most of the destroyed enemy equipment on their sniper account. Well, aerial reconnaissance worked perfectly, finding columns with reserves in time, which today, it turns out, never reached.
@wargonzo


Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:59 pm to
This is one of the interesting parts of the claim as well.

quote:

??Russian MoD claims that Valery Gerasimov was near the frontline when the AFU launched an attack in the Zaporizhia direction today.


https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1665486221672431618

There was a few telegram posts earlier from both sides about these Ukraine attacks but nothing substantial, I will try and track them down.

Most likely that these are probing attacks which are being amplified as a "win" by Russia to divert attention away from the issues up north, especially given the sudden rush of information in lieu of the announcement via Russian sources.

Curious to see how this develops further.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:55 pm to
ISW update

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Key Takeaways

Elements of the all-Russian pro-Ukrainian Russian Volunteer Corps (RDK) and Freedom of Russia Legion (LSR) conducted another limited raid into Belgorod Oblast on June 4 and are reportedly continuing to operate in a Russian border settlement.

Belgorod Oblast Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov responded to a RDK and LSR demand to negotiate for the exchange of captured Russian prisoners of war (POWs).

The dissonant Russian responses to and reporting about the limited raid in Belgorod Oblast continue to suggest that the Russian leadership has not yet decided how to react to these limited cross-border raids.

The limited raids and border shelling in Belgorod Oblast are increasingly becoming the current focal point for criticism against the Russian military leadership.

Russian forces again targeted Ukraine with Iranian-made drones and cruise missiles on June 4 making it the fourth consecutive day of strikes across Ukraine.

Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed on June 4 that Ukrainian forces may have regained positions in southwestern Bakhmut, supporting repeated Ukrainian reports that Ukrainian forces maintain positions on the southwestern outskirts of the city.

Ukrainian and Russian forces both claimed to have made limited territorial gains on the Kupyansk-Svatove line.

Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks around Bakhmut and Marinka.

Ukrainian forces conducted local ground attacks and reportedly made limited tactical gains in western Donetsk Oblast and eastern Zaporizhia Oblast.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) submitted a draft government decree that will no longer require an individual’s presence at an enlistment office for military registration.

Russian officials continue to use rest and rehabilitation schemes to deport Ukrainian children from occupied territories to Russia.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:41 pm to
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How does it feel to be on the wrong side of history? Putin loses. Love wins.



You are so bad at this. It's like watching a 5-year-old attempt to troll.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Most likely that these are probing attacks which are being amplified as a "win" by Russia to divert attention away from the issues up north, especially given the sudden rush of information in lieu of the announcement via Russian sources.



No videos yet (or even reports) of Bradleys, Leopards, Challengers, CV-90s, etc. That makes me believe that these are feints or probes.
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:52 pm to
Just playing games right now boys. Nothing has started yet.

I hope they freaking roll over them in blitzkrieg fashion just like the Nazis did.
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:27 pm to
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No videos yet (or even reports) of Bradleys, Leopards, Challengers, CV-90s, etc. That makes me believe that these are feints or probes.


Totally, seeing meaningful numbers and data of those in action (or destroyed) will be a good indicator that things are really kicking off.

As much as I want Ukraine to dominate and end this so hostilities can end sooner rather than later they likely have another week or two of shaping up their sleeves.

Even following that I will be very leery of any claims of the offensive commencing, if only to prevent falling for expectation bias.
Posted by LSUPilot07
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:32 pm to
Sounds kind of like a recon by fire mission but I highly doubt that Ukraine would roll out their new western tanks in such a small attack. If Russia is claiming several battalions attacked with 2 tank battalions you’re probably looking at 2-3 companies of infantry and 4-5 tanks were probing defense lines. Regardless we will know the real truth by morning. When Ukraine uses their new western equipped units I expect it to be in big numbers at one, maybe 2, particular spots on the line.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:37 pm to
These do not sound like coordinated offensive movements. The Russians describe what sound like Russian style crazy frontal attacks. Nothing big at this point.
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

There was a few telegram posts earlier from both sides about these Ukraine attacks but nothing substantial, I will try and track them down.


Correction, it was three Russian orientated Telegram accounts posting several hours before the Russian MoD announcement regarding the UAF attack in Zaporizihia area today.

No videos just maps with claims of attacks that were repulsed or only temporarily successful. Interestingly the Russian MoD announcement is a very close composition of these reports.

https://t.me/dva_majors/16778

quote:

Zaporizhzhya front, eastern flank

The enemy introduced into the battle the 31st separate mechanized brigade, the wedge of the enemy up to 3 km battle on the northern outskirts of Watchman. The APU seized the previously controlled by us Novodarovka and the Non-Smoking.

By 15-00, at least 3 enemy tanks ( one was equipped with a trawl ) and three other armored vehicles were destroyed.

Part of the enemy’s technique was blown up by mines, part - destroyed by the calculations of the PTUR.

The enemy led into battle even before the company-tactical group and the platoon of tanks to strike at the Watchman ( south of the Non-Smack ).

Our troops respond with aviation


https://t.me/romanov_92/38757

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06/04/2023
with. The boring, Volnovakh district, Donetsk People's Republic, temporarily occupied by Ukraine territory of Russia.

n.p. came under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


https://t.me/vrogov/10031

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offensive militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Today, at about 12:00, the militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, through reconnaissance in battle, attempted to break through the Zaporizhzhya front in the Vremevsky district.

The main hostilities unfolded in the direction of the settlements of Novodarovka, Rovnopol, as well as in the areas south and southwest of Vremevka ( Non-smoking-Makarovka ) and south of Novodrovka ( Leewd-Prutny ).

About two motorized infantry companies and over one and a half dozen units of armored vehicles took part in the assault, including T-72 tanks, American armored vehicles M113, armored vehicles M1224 MaxxProo and HMMWV M1151A1.

In addition to regular units of the Armed Forces militants, Polish mercenaries from the Third Assault Group of the Polish Corps took part in the attack.

After two hours of battle, the Nazis were able to advance by about 200 meters, losing at least two tanks destroyed from the ATGM, and up to one and a half dozen militants.

As of 16:00, the maximum depth at which the combined forces of the Ukrainian Nazis and Polish mercenaries were able to wedge reached 400 meters.

Thanks to the high-quality defense of our fighters from the 5th All-Night Red-Night Army of the Air Defense Forces and the exact blows of the Russian Air Force, artillery and sighting mortar fire, the enemy suffered the loss of ( at least ten units of armored vehicles and about 50 militants ) and at the moment have been thrown back from their positions.

Active fighting is underway. The enemy does not stop the assault attempt, our fighters cover the enemy with fire.


There were however Ukrainian reports roughly from the same time of equipment taken out in the same areas the Russians are talking about, however these have supporting video attributed to them.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1665447652207501313 - Video

Edit: Clarity, additional link

2nd Edit: Additional footage and photos reportedly of Ukrainian vehicles under fire.

Video from the Russian Armed Forces that has been geolocated to the area of the earlier attacks, however beyond that it is very hard to ascertain what is being hit due to the low quality.

https://twitter.com/J_JHelin/status/1665510652318822402 - Video

The photos have not been geolocated but appear to show the same location from a different angle and give a better view of vehicles.

https://twitter.com/Sprinter99880/status/1665504268994879490




This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 5:19 am
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:37 am to
Looks like yesterdays attack may have been a probing attempt as there are Russian claims of a genuine attack or recon in force being carried out just to the north west of those.



https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1665588872846114816

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Pro-Russian Wargonzo is reporting a new Ukrainian attack near Velyka Novosilka, Donetsk oblast

"This time the news is much more disturbing. The Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to form a much more serious armored fist"

t.me/wargonzo/12962




quote:

Another Russian source (arguably more reliable than WarGonzo) reporting a Ukrainian attack near Velyka Novosilka, Donetsk oblast.

The source says more equipment is used by the AFU compared to yesterday. Battles ongoing.

https://t.me/rusich_army/9180




quote:

Commander of the pro-Russian Vostok Battalion Alexander Khodakosvsky commenting on the situation https://t.me/aleksandr_skif/2716


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quote:

Pro-Russian official in occupied Zaporizhzhia oblast: "The enemy threw even greater forces into the attack than yesterday, approaching the attempt to break through on a larger scale and in an organized manner"

https://t.me/vrogov/10035




Edit; Additional links
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 3:55 am
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