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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:56 am to
From the Russian Sladkov Telegram channel
https://t.me/Sladkov_plus/7822
quote:

DONBASS. THREE DANGEROUS DIRECTIONS:

1. The enemy is pressing on our flanks near Artemovsk, from the south, in the direction of Kleshcheevka and Kurdyumovka. The settlements themselves are not being stormed, but they are shelling our advanced positions, including in Bakhmut itself. Enemy UAVs are actively working, both spotters and kamikazes. The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is concentrating forces in the area of ??Chasov Yar and Ivanovsky (Krasnoe). The enemy has infiltrated the gardens and is dragging armored vehicles into the same area. Russian artillery is actively working in these areas, the infantry is fighting.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine, by their actions, are trying to level the front along the Pivnichnoye-Kurdyumovka-Kleshchevka line by occupying the dominant heights. From this line, the enemy can develop an offensive in depth, delivering a butt blow between parts of the 1st and 2nd corps. And at the same time creating a threat of coverage from the south of Artemovsk, then it is dangerous to approach the village of Golmovsky and Gorlovka. After this, the enemy can develop an offensive in the direction of the Uglegorsk State District Power Plant.

2. To the south of Avdiivka near Vodyany and Experienced Armed Forces of Ukraine today they attacked in groups up to a company, reinforced with tanks. These attacks did not bring success to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Having suffered losses, they were forced to retreat.

3. In the Ugledar direction, the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to attack in two directions with a tank company with infantry support. In total, up to a battalion was thrown into battle in two directions along Ugledar. Here the APU suffered. serious losses in equipment and manpower, lost at least 7 tanks and a dozen armored vehicles, losses in personnel up to 2 companies.

One conclusion can be drawn from all this.
Volodymyr Zelensky was asked for the money invested. We need wins, so we are seeing a gradual increase in the number of attacking groups with increasing amounts of armor and tanks. The disappointing result of the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine gives Zelensky another reason to ask the West for planes. They say we are trying, but with airplanes everything will definitely work out. Soon we will see an attack in one direction with forces already up to the battalion.


ETA more from Rob Lee on this
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1665736495045693440
quote:

He says this is designed to take the high ground to the south of Bakhmut, which could set up an advance towards the Vuhlehirska Power Station and threaten movement to Holmivskyi and Horlivka. He also claims Ukraine tried to advance in Vodyane and Opytne SW of Avdiivka. 2/

He says the attacks in the Avdiivka and Vuhledar areas were mostly company size (up to battalion size in Vuhledar counting two directions), indicating that Ukraine has not committed its main effort. 3/


This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 10:13 am
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:02 am to
Update from Rybar

https://t.me/rybar/48037

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?????????? South-Donetsk direction
situation as of 14.00 June 5, 2023

??On the border of the Zaporozhye region and the DPR, in the area of the Vremievsky ledge, the Armed Forces of Ukraine resumed the assault on Russian positions. Yesterday, by the end of the day, the RF Armed Forces recaptured the lost territories, including Novodarovka .

??Ukrainian formations (according to some reports, the forces of the 23rd and 31st OMB are involved in the battles) are attacking in two directions: near Novodarovka and Rivnopol .

?? By noon, Russian units repelled an attack of six tanks and infantry near Novodarovka. And from the direction of Novoselka, the offensive continues - reserves are brought in two kilometers west of Neskuchny .

??Also in the morning there was an attempt to storm the positions of the Russian Armed Forces near Neskuchnoye and Storozhevoy by marines of the new 37th Marine Brigade on several armored combat vehicles. The attack was repulsed.

??The main hostilities unfolded in the Novodonetsk region. This morning, a convoy of 30 AFVs of the 37th Marine Corps of the Ukrainian Navy, including Kirpi and MaxxPRO, attacked the positions of the Russian Armed Forces near the village. As a result, the enemy entrenched himself on the outskirts of the settlement.

Now the fighting continues under heavy artillery fire. Soldiers of the 36th Army of the RF Armed Forces are trying to drive out the Ukrainian marines. At the moment, about half of the village is under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

At the same time, a convoy of 20 armored vehicles is moving southeast from the Bolshaya Novoselka area, most likely to strengthen positions in Novodonetskoye.

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This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 10:04 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:20 am to
Ukrainian deputy defense minister:

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quote:

What is happening now?

We are continuing the defense that we started on February 24, 2022.
A defensive operation includes everything, including counteroffensive actions. Therefore, in some areas we are moving to offensive actions.

In particular, the Bakhmut direction remains the epicenter of hostilities. There we are moving along a fairly wide front. We are successful. We occupy the dominant heights.
The enemy is on the defensive, he wants to hold his position.

In the south - the enemy is on the defensive.
Fighting of local importance continues.

Why are the Russians actively releasing information about a counteroffensive?
Because they need to divert attention from the defeat in the Bakhmut direction.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:22 am to
Unfortunately for Ukraine, Germany has decided against donating Taurus missiles for now.

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Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:29 am to
Some Russian sources are showing what is claimed to be a photo of an "abandoned" Leopard 2 tank, but the tank has desert camo, which seems unlikely. Then there's this:

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:36 am to
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1665725383327580160
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Khodakovsky and other Russian channels said that Russian communications went down before Ukraine's assault yesterday. Kots also posted about Ukrainian EW jamming Russian comms.
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Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:37 am to
https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1665743931768811520
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??????Ukrainian Armed Forces advanced 200-1,600 m in the direction of Orikhovo-Vasylivka, Paraskoviivka and 100-700 m in the direction of Ivanivske-Klishchiivka, - Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Malyar.




This is just north of Bakhmut
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Paraskoviivka,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine/@48.7038977,34.1835207,7.25z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x40dfeefeff4eb319:0x1649bdae8628743a!8m2!3d48.6590821!4d38.000647!16s%2Fg%2F1237dc_1?entry=ttu
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 11:03 am
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:56 am to
Evening update from Rybar

For those wondering where this is
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Urozhaine,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine,+85551/@47.6902466,36.2672579,8.5z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x40ddfbea20340dab:0xa053e378124ccb86!8m2!3d47.7459658!4d36.8187874!16s%2Fg%2F120l7t3h?entry=ttu


https://t.me/rybar/48043
quote:

?????????? Vremievsky ledge
situation as of 18.00 June 5, 2023

??To the east of the Vremievsky ledge, the armored group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to squeeze out Russian troops from the village of Novodonetskoye . During the attack, for the first time, Ukrainian formations used German Leopard tanks - now there are two Leopards and five AFVs in Novodonetsk.

??The Armed Forces of Ukraine are regrouping, as they suffered heavy losses in manpower. Also, Russian gunners destroyed nine units of wheeled armored vehicles. To the west of Novodonetsk, about ten pieces of equipment and from 40 to 100 infantrymen were stationed in the forest belt .

??In addition, the concentration of forces of the 37th Marine Brigade of the Ukrainian Navy in the direction of Urozhaynoye was noted. Most likely, the enemy plans to attack the flank of the Russian grouping after the approach of the reserves.




Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Evening update from Rybar

That's a straight pro-Russian source, copied verbatim by War Monitor. Like the comment above noted, the reports are only from the pro-Russian forces at this point as everyone else is keeping quiet.
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:42 am to
Thank you all again for aggregating these news sources and bringing them here. I would get lost quickly trying to search out this stuff.

I can't wait to start reading some of the more Ukraine based reports in the coming days.

Imagine what it would be like to be in the command center right now looking over satellite images to see every reaction that Russia is making to these moves. I supposed the intercepted radio discussions would be pretty interesting as well.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:49 am to
NY Times:

"Ukrainian officials have not told their American counterparts exactly when the counteroffensive will start, but have provided them with a time frame during which they intended to begin ... Sunday was within that time frame, said U.S. officials"

Gee, I wonder why Ukraine wouldn't tell us the exact time.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 11:51 am
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:55 am to
ISW...
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1665763741407772672
quote:

Russian and Ukrainian officials are signaling the start of the Ukrainian #counteroffensive. ISW has observed increased combat activity in different sectors of the frontline and assesses that Ukrainian forces are making territorial gains despite Russian claims to the contrary.????

2/ The signals include Russian MoD claims that Ukrainian forces launched an unsuccessful “large-scale offensive” on June 4 & Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar’s June 5 statement that Ukrainian forces are “transferring to offensive actions” in some unspecified areas.

3/ Russian officials have historically immediately claimed that Ukrainian counter-offensives failed even when the counter-offensives ultimately succeed.

4/
@TheStudyofWar
has indeed observed an increase in combat activity in different sectors of the frontline but will not speculate about or forecast the intent, weighting, or focus of Ukrainian counter-offensive operations.

5/ ISW will assess the outcome of Ukrainian counter-offensive operations when it can do so without compromising Ukrainian operational security, in accordance with ISW policy.

6/ A successful counteroffensive operation may take days, weeks, or even months before its outcome becomes fully clear, during which time Russian sources may falsely claim to have defeated it.

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:08 pm to
Dead Russian Officers starting to show up in Ukrainian feeds

NSFW image at link
https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1665765176790974464

quote:

????In the course of joint work, the volunteers of the Legion "Freedom of Russia" and the RDC eliminated the former commander of the 104th Airborne Assault Regiment of the Russian Federation, the senior operational group "Bilhorod", Colonel Andriy Vasyliovych Stesev.




This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:44 pm to
Tricky to keep track of all the news on three different axes right now:

1) Belgorod incursion from "Russian freedom fighters."

2) Renewed Ukrainian offensive actions on both the northern and southern flanks of Bakhmut.

3) Ukrainian offensive in the southern Donetsk area, attacking from the Vuhledar area towards Mariupol
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:52 pm to
Lots going on now

quote:

1) Belgorod incursion from "Russian freedom fighters."

They are still inside Russia, can Russia respond??? Evidently not quickly.

quote:

2) Renewed Ukrainian offensive actions on both the northern and southern flanks of Bakhmut.

I suspect these are just pinning attacks to keep the Russians occupied and prevent the relocation of the troops that are in the area.
quote:

3) Ukrainian offensive in the southern Donetsk area, attacking from the Vuhledar area towards Mariupol

It's still unclear if this is a major attack or just recon/probing/feint.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:53 pm to
Looking at the offensive actions in south Donetsk, we have this from the pro-Russian account Big Serge:

quote:

The AFU units in combat today seem to be the 37th Marine Brigade, based on the vehicles positively ID'd. This is one of the units idenitified in the Pentagon combat power build plan, but it is among the lowest quality and is not one of the premium assets.



Pair that with this from Professor Phillips O'Brien:

quote:

All I can say is that I have it from an anonymous Ukrainian source that these are most likely diversionary attacks. They are the start of a major operation, but not the major offensive location itself. However, they could be exploited if it turns out the Russian lines could be broken.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:56 pm to
more info via Rybar

quote:

Fwd from SpetsnazArchangel - Summary as of 20:00
? The enemy attacked positions in two areas north of Horlivka, near ??the pumping station and to the north of it, by ??the canal, the number of enemy forces was up to a company, up to 10 armored vehicles took part.
There the enemy had no success, at the moment we are successfully repelling the onslaught, the enemy has noticeably reduced activity. They are feeling out our positions, check whether we are sleeping or not.
? At Vuhledar, the enemy's offensive is going hard, our aviation is working, the enemy is undermined by mines. The enemy is suffering losses, but managed to cling on to Novodonetsk.
? Also, the village of Neskuchnoye returned under our control, from where we were forced out yesterday during an attempted enemy offensive.
? At Kherson, the enemy did not take any action, it is relatively calm there.
? According to unconfirmed reports, Ukrainian armed formations are located in the settlement of Nova Tavolzhanka.
During the day, a civilian was killed during shelling.

Drones are actively flying in the sky, the enemy is conducting aerial reconnaissance of the current state of our positions.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:59 pm to
https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/status/1665780180680335360
quote:

Governor of Belgorod Gladkov confirms Russia doesn’t control Tavolzhanka. Is there anything at the moment that Russia still firmly controls?

Posted by Athanatos
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:02 pm to
I am waiting for a riverine assault from Kherson or a sweeping assault through Russia to catch everyone off guard.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

I have seen today so much where I could say something, but it is so hilariously good what Russians believe is happening. I will not spoil the fun, yet.


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