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Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:14 pm to ticklechain
Brother is the banker back in Turkey
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:34 pm to OutsideObserver
quote:For those of us who are interested but not following as closely as, say, you and GOP Tiger, is there some reliable webpage explaining what are these main sources, like this Faytuks y'all often link to? I'm somewhat familiar with major western media like The Telegraph (UK) and Der Spiegel (Germany), and I've picked up that Rybar is Russian or a Russian sympathizer, but there are large gaps in my understanding of what to think about a bunch of the sources y'all use. Thanks.
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1662905585103171584
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:47 pm to NOLATiger163
Here's a link to a google sheet of the various twitter accounts I follow related to the war.
After 15 months of watching news/video/pictures on twitter, most of us have learned which accounts are solid sources that post good info. Occasionally they will get it wrong or post something as confirmed that isn't, but they are solid 90% of the time.
ETA: To answer your question, no there isn't a single website that vets twitter accounts.
After 15 months of watching news/video/pictures on twitter, most of us have learned which accounts are solid sources that post good info. Occasionally they will get it wrong or post something as confirmed that isn't, but they are solid 90% of the time.
ETA: To answer your question, no there isn't a single website that vets twitter accounts.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:51 pm to Chromdome35
Thanks. So who / what is Faytuks? Twitter says from Norway, but beyond that I know nothing.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:57 pm to NOLATiger163
I don't know, I haven't followed his feed. I just did a quick surf of his Twitter feed and he looks to be pro Ukrainian, given the quantity of commenting he does on Middle Eastern topics, I suspect he's possibly Muslim and probably middle eastern living in Norway.
Are you wondering if he's trust worthy? What post of his has your attention?
Are you wondering if he's trust worthy? What post of his has your attention?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:23 pm to Chromdome35
I would add Kamil Galeev to that list for Russian inside baseball, grand strategy and geopolitics.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:30 pm to NOLATiger163
Add Perun on YouTube every Sunday morning. Not a day be day accounting but very good info you won't see anywhere else.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:18 am to NOLATiger163
NOLATiger163 said:
The latest information on the war, especially when taken from the lens of social media, is chaotic and it is very much trial and error to find good sources. Even then their reliability can change over time due to both internal and external factors influencing their accounts.
GOP_Tiger, Chrome, and many others have posted far longer in the thread than I have - they are a good place to start regarding reliable sources, Chrome's spread sheet is a brilliant resource as he is one of the most objective posters here.
Personally for the latest information I look mainly at Twitter/Telegram, a small selection of Reddit and Youtube accounts, and wherever sources from them lead.
Though most sources contain elements of each of the below, I find there are three main styles of reporting on the war:
- OSINT accounts which focus on certain areas of the war, verify information, and investigate misinformation.
- News aggregators which are a constant feed of information as they find it.
- Information channel accounts which is a broad umbrella encapsulating both information and disinformation accounts for both sides.
Across all three there are varying levels of reliability, usually reflecting their bias, or lack thereof - but as a rule:
- Genuine OSINT accounts are generally reliable as they have the time to focus in on specific events, desire to check information, and present evidence (Depth).
- Aggregators are somewhat reliable but they can get caught in the trap of staying ahead of the news and publish incorrect information. They also only offer surface views of
events (Breadth).
- Information accounts vary most widely in reliability based on bias and the type of information reported. The objective ones are good for getting both depth and/or breadth on specific
events while even propaganda accounts can allow you to glean new sources in their targets and where the other side is focusing based on their disinformation.
Main stream or more traditional news sites I usually only go to when referenced elsewhere, if looking to verify announcements, or to check technical information since they are usually several days behind.
Faytuks specifically is a Ukrainian leaning news aggregator account which also reports on the Middle East. They are a good source of what is happening with the latest missile and drone strikes from both sides. They generally don't colour their reports with analysis, though the language reflects a predisposition towards Ukraine. I have seen them post bad information before which they usually will take down if proven to be false. Overall if I was to use a system like Chrome's I would give them an A-.
Edit: Clarity
quote:
For those of us who are interested but not following as closely as, say, you and GOP Tiger, is there some reliable webpage explaining what are these main sources, like this Faytuks y'all often link to? I'm somewhat familiar with major western media like The Telegraph (UK) and Der Spiegel (Germany), and I've picked up that Rybar is Russian or a Russian sympathizer, but there are large gaps in my understanding of what to think about a bunch of the sources y'all use. Thanks.
The latest information on the war, especially when taken from the lens of social media, is chaotic and it is very much trial and error to find good sources. Even then their reliability can change over time due to both internal and external factors influencing their accounts.
GOP_Tiger, Chrome, and many others have posted far longer in the thread than I have - they are a good place to start regarding reliable sources, Chrome's spread sheet is a brilliant resource as he is one of the most objective posters here.
Personally for the latest information I look mainly at Twitter/Telegram, a small selection of Reddit and Youtube accounts, and wherever sources from them lead.
Though most sources contain elements of each of the below, I find there are three main styles of reporting on the war:
- OSINT accounts which focus on certain areas of the war, verify information, and investigate misinformation.
- News aggregators which are a constant feed of information as they find it.
- Information channel accounts which is a broad umbrella encapsulating both information and disinformation accounts for both sides.
Across all three there are varying levels of reliability, usually reflecting their bias, or lack thereof - but as a rule:
- Genuine OSINT accounts are generally reliable as they have the time to focus in on specific events, desire to check information, and present evidence (Depth).
- Aggregators are somewhat reliable but they can get caught in the trap of staying ahead of the news and publish incorrect information. They also only offer surface views of
events (Breadth).
- Information accounts vary most widely in reliability based on bias and the type of information reported. The objective ones are good for getting both depth and/or breadth on specific
events while even propaganda accounts can allow you to glean new sources in their targets and where the other side is focusing based on their disinformation.
Main stream or more traditional news sites I usually only go to when referenced elsewhere, if looking to verify announcements, or to check technical information since they are usually several days behind.
Faytuks specifically is a Ukrainian leaning news aggregator account which also reports on the Middle East. They are a good source of what is happening with the latest missile and drone strikes from both sides. They generally don't colour their reports with analysis, though the language reflects a predisposition towards Ukraine. I have seen them post bad information before which they usually will take down if proven to be false. Overall if I was to use a system like Chrome's I would give them an A-.
Edit: Clarity
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 4:22 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:25 am to OutsideObserver
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 29 May 2023
On 24 May 2023, Russia conducted a security exercise around the Crimea Bridge, which links the Russian city of Kerch to the occupied peninsula. This included the creation of a smoke screen, partially masking the bridge.
The smoke screen was laid by TDA-3 truck-mounted smoke generators, likely of the 28th Brigade of Russia's Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection Troops.
Russian doctrine considers the use of smoke part of maskirovka (camouflage and deception) - upon which it places strong emphasis. However, in practice, Russian maskirovka has generally been ineffectual in the Ukraine war, likely because of a lack of a strong central planning function and poor low-level battle discipline.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 29 May 2023
On 24 May 2023, Russia conducted a security exercise around the Crimea Bridge, which links the Russian city of Kerch to the occupied peninsula. This included the creation of a smoke screen, partially masking the bridge.
The smoke screen was laid by TDA-3 truck-mounted smoke generators, likely of the 28th Brigade of Russia's Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection Troops.
Russian doctrine considers the use of smoke part of maskirovka (camouflage and deception) - upon which it places strong emphasis. However, in practice, Russian maskirovka has generally been ineffectual in the Ukraine war, likely because of a lack of a strong central planning function and poor low-level battle discipline.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:35 am to cypher
Air Force: 30 drones, 37 cruise missiles shot down overnight in Ukraine
by Martin Fornusek May 29, 2023 10:41 AM
Russia launched up to 40 cruise missiles and 35 attack drones in the overnight attack, Ukraine's Air Force reported on May 29.
Ukraine’s air defense successfully intercepted 29 Shahed kamikaze drones, one reconnaissance drone, and 37 Kh-101/Kh-555 cruise missiles.
According to the Air Force, up to 40 Kh-101/Kh-555 cruise missiles were launched from Tu-95 bomber planes from the direction of the Caspian Sea, while Shahed-136/131 drones conducted 35 strikes from the northern and the southern directions.
Air raid alerts were activated early on May 29 in all Ukrainian oblasts. Air defense was at work in Odesa, Vinnytsia, Poltava, Lviv, and Khmelnytskyi oblasts.
Kyiv experienced Russia's 15th air assault on the city in May, marking the second consecutive overnight attack of similar intensity. No significant damages or casualties were reported in Kyiv.
From the 67 targets shot down overnight, up to 40 were downed over the capital alone.
The Kyiv Independent
by Martin Fornusek May 29, 2023 10:41 AM
Russia launched up to 40 cruise missiles and 35 attack drones in the overnight attack, Ukraine's Air Force reported on May 29.
Ukraine’s air defense successfully intercepted 29 Shahed kamikaze drones, one reconnaissance drone, and 37 Kh-101/Kh-555 cruise missiles.
According to the Air Force, up to 40 Kh-101/Kh-555 cruise missiles were launched from Tu-95 bomber planes from the direction of the Caspian Sea, while Shahed-136/131 drones conducted 35 strikes from the northern and the southern directions.
Air raid alerts were activated early on May 29 in all Ukrainian oblasts. Air defense was at work in Odesa, Vinnytsia, Poltava, Lviv, and Khmelnytskyi oblasts.
Kyiv experienced Russia's 15th air assault on the city in May, marking the second consecutive overnight attack of similar intensity. No significant damages or casualties were reported in Kyiv.
From the 67 targets shot down overnight, up to 40 were downed over the capital alone.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:10 am to cypher
Missile chunk hits street right in the middle of traffic.
The moment of the fall of the debris of the russian rocket in Kyiv was recorded on a video surveillance camera.
Twitter video
The moment of the fall of the debris of the russian rocket in Kyiv was recorded on a video surveillance camera.
Twitter video
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 7:25 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:13 am to NOLATiger163
quote:
For those of us who are interested but not following as closely as, say, you and GOP Tiger, is there some reliable webpage explaining what are these main sources, like this Faytuks y'all often link to? I'm somewhat familiar with major western media like The Telegraph (UK) and Der Spiegel (Germany), and I've picked up that Rybar is Russian or a Russian sympathizer, but there are large gaps in my understanding of what to think about a bunch of the sources y'all use. Thanks.
The Russia Ukraine War Report Podcast by Malcontent News is solidly researched and well verified. If they get something wrong, they say so.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:45 am to TBoy
The way that Russia has been hammering Ukrainian ammunition and fuel depots all spring it is not really surprising that the Ukrainian spring offensive failed to materialize. You can’t mount a credible offensive with no fuel, ammunition, or men. Very disappointing.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:50 am to BrainKellyRespecter
quote:
not really surprising that the Ukrainian spring offensive failed to materialize.
Hard to declare the spring offensive as non-existent. Spring isn’t over and it doesn’t appear that a large scale offensive has begun. Also, the rains have continued. It’s still wait and watch.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:13 am to BrainKellyRespecter
quote:
Very disappointing.
quote:
by BrainKellyRespecter
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:23 am to TBoy
quote:
Hard to declare the spring offensive as non-existent. Spring isn’t over and it doesn’t appear that a large scale offensive has begun. Also, the rains have continued. It’s still wait and watch.
Is BKR the pedo, Scott Ritter?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:35 am to BrainKellyRespecter
quote:
The way that Russia has been hammering Ukrainian ammunition and fuel depots all spring it is not really surprising that the Ukrainian spring offensive failed to materialize. You can’t mount a credible offensive with no fuel, ammunition, or men. Very disappointing.
You're back! I'm excited.
Just in time, too. I remember, back in the fall, when you insisted again and again that Kherson would be Russia forever, and then it fell. I think that you're a good-luck charm for Ukraine.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 9:36 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:42 am to GOP_Tiger
You are thinking of someone else. I am pro-Ukraine.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:54 am to GOP_Tiger
https://twitter.com/euromaidanpress/status/1662748327664836608?s=61&t=_9tcV0Sr_TllH-Yfk47E9Q
quote:
Study shows drones the cheapest, most effective in battle against Russian invasion Cost analysis of Ukraine’s weapons by @Volodymyr_D_ compares unmanned aircraft with artillery, also found Javelin most effective on armored vehicles, though more expensive euromaidanpress.com/2023/05/28/stu…
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