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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:08 pm to
Insane interview in Izvestia with Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation. Those on the Poliboard should really read and watch Russian media to understand how these people think. I added a few of my thoughts.

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There are many irrefutable facts about how representatives of the Anglo-Saxon elite shared fascist ideas, supported Hitler financially and organizationally, and today they need to maintain a “democratic” face. In a tailcoat or uniform, fascism and Nazism are an unconditional evil, no matter what clothes they wear. Nevertheless, in order to solve modern geopolitical problems, the Anglo-Saxons willingly revive the neo-Nazi ideology. Such experiments do not lead to domination, but to a world catastrophe, therefore they must be suppressed harshly and uncompromisingly.
So, the problem isn't that Ukraine is full of Nazis; it's that the US and the UK are full of Nazis. America needs to be "supressed harshly."

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Russia is a bone in the throat of the West, which is trying to create its own world order. More than a hundred years ago, the English geographer Mackinder formulated the well-known theory of the geographical axis of history and the so-called Heartland, that is, the middle land occupied by Russia. He argued that control of the Heartland meant domination of the World Island, as he called Eurasia. Dominance over the Heartland, in his opinion, creates the basis for control over the Eurasian space, and this in turn leads to global dominance.

He also owns the idea of ??isolating our state with the help of the so-called cordon sanitaire from the small countries of Eastern Europe. The initiative to separate Ukraine from Russia , as well as other national outskirts of the former empire, also came from Mackinder. So many years have passed, but their goals have not changed.

The anti-Russian Western global strategy has not changed for centuries. I remembered Mackinder in connection with the fact that he was one of the first who brought the theory under the numerous aggressive "crusades" of the so-called Western civilization against Russia.

Even the eastward expansion of NATO is proceeding along the same lines as Napoleon, Kaiser Wilhelm and Hitler.
So the problem is that the West has plotted against Russia for centuries in our attempt to conquer the world. Allowing Eastern European nations to join NATO is like Nazism. This is why the US is Nazi.

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European politics today is in the deepest moral and intellectual decline. A vivid example is the Munich Security Conference, where Western politicians gather only to read each other State Department manuals.

Having created the mechanisms of the North Atlantic Alliance for its own needs, the United States, in fact, occupied Europe. Put in a position of hopelessness, European officials have turned the Old World into an economic base for American experiments, dutifully fulfill NATO's military tasks. And the NATO command, under the control of the Pentagon, interacts directly with weapons manufacturers, simply ignoring the official authorities of other countries.

NATO expansion allows Washington to put additional territories of Eastern Europe under its control. Indicative in this regard is the algorithm for joining new countries to the alliance. It prescribes to swear allegiance to the "owner" by transferring the documents of ratification not to anyone, but to the US government.
Finland just joined NATO, so everyone here in the US should have celebrated that America is successfully conquering the globe!

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Do you remember the Yellowstone Volcano? If he wakes up, it will be an unprecedented disaster. It is capable of eruptions thousands of times greater than those known to mankind. Observations show that over the years the activity of the volcano increases, the magma in it approaches the surface at a high speed. The number of earthquakes in the surrounding caldera is also growing, reaching 2 thousand per year.

The conducted studies made it possible to simulate the course of the alleged eruption and its consequences. It is believed that the death of all life in North America is inevitable. From a chain of eruptions of other volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis and acid rains, most of the world's population will suffer. But this worries the population of America, not its politicians.

The problem of protecting the population and economic infrastructure from the destructive power of volcanoes requires the development of scientific research in the field of volcanology. Western countries, obsessively increasing the number of sanctions, should not be protected by them from Russia, but should continue to cooperate in the scientific field, including in geology. Research and achievements in the interests of progress and saving people's lives should become the property of all mankind.

At the same time, I would like to wish the American authorities with their Yellowstone to recall folk wisdom more often. An English proverb says: "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones." Washington, which decides the fate of other states and peoples, should remember that in Pompeii the ancient Romans also lived well and were not averse to debauchery.

By the way, some in America argue that with a possible eruption, Eastern Europe and Siberia will become the safest places. Apparently, here lies the answer to the question why the Anglo-Saxon elites are so eager to take possession of the same Heartland.
Now, the entire US plot becomes clear: after victory in Ukraine, the US will take Siberia so that we can all go live there after the explosion of the Yellowstone volcano. It all makes sense now.

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Ukraine is required by the Americans only as an object of merciless exploitation of existing natural resources without a traditional population. Following such a neo-Nazi line, Washington has already turned it into a territory that millions of people are leaving en masse, seeking protection abroad from socio-economic problems and pro-fascist oppression. 30 years of upheavals organized by Washington in Ukraine have led to a halving of the population.
Again, American Nazi ideology means encouraging Ukraine to resist Russia, which is leading the depopulation of Ukraine so that we Americans can exploit its natural resources. We invaded Ukraine for the oil!

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:10 pm to
That makes more sense. A recon going that far behind enemy lines would be some sort of SOF probably. I'm sure that both sides have units that do those sorts of operations, but we aren't likely to ever hear about them.

Looks like normal fighting other than the fact that it took place at night as neither side does a whole lot after dark.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:27 pm to
Zoka posts what he says is the first video of the launch of the Iranian drones -- it's certainly the first that I have seen.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:33 pm to
Bury me under a mountain of Yellowstone's ash before I live in Siberia.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:41 pm to
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Trump


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will pull us out of NATO, stop funding Ukraine, and we will send money, weapons and troops on behalf of Russia.


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SneezyBeltranIsHere

Jesus Christ.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:42 pm to
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Washington has already turned it into a territory that millions of people are leaving en masse, seeking protection abroad from socio-economic problems

Yeah, "socio-economic problems" are why Ukrainians have fled...
I'm sure it has nothing to do with having a cruise missile or artillery shell coming down on their head. Or maybe a drunk Russian grunt raping their mother...It's because Washington has made them poor.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20968 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 5:14 pm to
This absolute trash account has over 300,000 followers. There is ZERO evidence of any of this.





People freak out when they read this crap.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28560 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 5:14 pm to
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Russia is a bone in the throat of the West, which is trying to create its own world order.

What's kind of sad about this whole insane adventure by Russia is that they had a seat at the table in both Europe and in the world order. They were a major energy player and were holding their own as a participant on the world stage.

Then the insanity of invade and conquer took over at the highest levels of Russian government. And rather than re-evaluate their plans and return to regional order, they are going full warfare on the world.

They no longer have a seat at the table and are no longer an international player. They have totally f*cked themselves for at least another generation. And for nothing.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 5:25 pm to
Why would they post that? I've followed that account sporadically since this kicked off and they have some decent stuff sometimes.

Why even post that when in the post they say it can't be verified at all?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8598 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 5:48 pm to
If it’s coming from current US stocks then it can only be the M777 or M109 SPG. I’ve wondered why we haven’t restored some M198 towed howitzers and sent them to Ukraine so we aren’t drawing down on our already limited number of M777 guns which are not being produced by BAE anymore. The M198 is much heavier than the M777 but is still just as good as any howitzer Russia is using. It just seemed like a logical solution to Ukraine’s need for artillery systems. Italy promised 60 M109s to Ukraine and their first delivery of 20 not a single one was in working order. Spain is guilty of sending shite that doesn’t work either and the German PzH2000, while very capable, is extremely sensitive to not only fragments from artillery hitting in the general vicinity but it doesn’t work well in muddy terrain to the point that the crew has to put on plastic booties over their feet when entering the vehicle. It’s nice to promise and send equipment but it should also be in working order and countries should be held accountable to that but won’t be by this administration.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 7:29 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 5:49 pm to
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I’ve wondered why we haven’t restored some M198 towed howitzers and sent them to Ukraine so we aren’t drawing down on our already limited number of M777 guns which are not being produced by BAE anymore.


Barrels are probably mostly worn out. Or we’ve already sold them to other Allie’s, given them to Iraq or Afghanistan.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5070 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:18 pm to
It is kind of like the US using military aid to carry influence throughout the world. Bad decision, should have tried an economic approach.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:29 pm to
Our Founding Fathers warned against foreign entanglements. Joe Biden and his merry warmongers are ignoring that warning. The American Military / Industrial Complex is alive and well, confident that in a confrontation with the Ruskies the Yanks would win.

This will not turn out well.

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:41 pm to
God bless the MIC.
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
784 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:43 pm to
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This absolute trash account has over 300,000 followers. There is ZERO evidence of any of this.



People freak out when they read this crap.


Not a fair call on that account in my view, I check in with them regularly as they are generally on target with being at the forefront of the latest developments and do their diligence about verifying their data, though I have seen a handful of instances where they haven't back tracked when they should have once new data came to light. I agree that this particular post is alarmist given the breadth of the claim, but as Twitter - @sentdefender notes the post is heavily qualified as unconfirmed and was posted because they feel:

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Everything starts out as Unconfirmed such as the Invasion of Ukraine itself or the Sinking of Moskva; I feel it is my “Duty” as an OSINT/Information Aggregation Account to Post this Info and then later down the line determine if it was True or False which is what I am currently attempting to do. The only Information I don’t Post is stuff that is clearly either Trolling or Blatantly Propaganda.


In all honesty, people that are going to freak out over a OSINT twitter thread that qualifies its content as unconfirmed several times will find something else to tie themselves in knots over anyway.

Edit: Submitted by mistake before finished.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:10 pm to
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Our Founding Fathers warned against foreign entanglements.


I always think it is cute when people glibly distill the ideas of all the founders from over 200 years ago into a succinct one-liner, it rarely ever passes muster.

First, if it weren't for the foreign entanglements of France, Spain, and The Netherlands we would likely play/watch soccer and cricket along with sending representatives to 1 Parliment St.

Second, the world is much smaller now. In 1780s terms The Kremlin and Putin's big table might as well be set up in the King of Prussia mall.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:11 pm to
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confident that in a confrontation with the Ruskies the Yanks would win.

Have you seen anything in the Russo-Ukrainian conflict to suggest otherwise if it were to happen?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:26 pm to
I don't think UN 77/L65 has been discussed. It is interesting because it contains some pretty harsh language toward Russia and along with 121 countries that voted yes there was one standout... China.

Viktor Alksnis a former Dumas member wrote this on his Telegram channel and was translated and appeared on Strelkov's Telegram channel:








Original post in Russian:

Telegram
Posted by FlintEastwood
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42608 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:41 pm to
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Bury me under a mountain of Yellowstone's ash before I live in Siberia.


You just don’t listen. Yellowstone is going to blow in 50 years. With global warming Siberia is going to replace Florida as a destination state.
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