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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/24/23 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 1:47 pm to
I am sure we are paying for the facility, metal, explosives, plus, 10% for the big man.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 1:54 pm to
Hey man Hunter has a lot of child support to pay.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 3:21 pm to
This is actually an area that I'm very excited to see what happens.

Ukroboronprom is the state-owned enterprise that has produced Ukrainian weapons and materiel. While it's certainly had some successes, I have read several times since the start of the war that the administration of its 67,000 employees has been less than ideal.

The challenge, of course, is that Ukraine's heavy industry was concentrated in the east of the country, in places such as Kharkiv, Mariupol, and Zaporizhzhia -- and factories in those places have been bombed.

But the deployment of NATO air defense has meant that much of the western part of Ukraine is mostly safe from Russian attack, and of course, new factories can also be built underground or in protected areas. Finally, Ukroboronprom can, as in this case, contract with factories in neighboring countries.

But the exciting part is that Ukroboronprom is about to officially cease to exist. Just two days ago, Ukraine's parliament passed the legislation that transforms Ukroboronprom from a government-run entity into a corporation, though of course, 100% of the stock will still be owned by the government.

For Ukroboronprom to be completely reorganized into a business corporation has the potential to substantially increase efficiency, especially when the process of setting up that corporation is under the oversight of Oleksandr Kamyshin, the new Minister of Strategic Industries.

Until last month, Kamyshin was the director of Ukraine's railway system, and he did a spectacular job. The performance of Ukrainian railways for military logistics as well as civilian transportation (especially important with the closure of Ukraine's airports) has been one of Ukraine's great success stories of the war.

I think Kamyshin is Ukraine's ablest administrator. I believe that putting him in charge of military production and weapons procurement will, in time, generate true achievements for Ukraine's military industry.

Edit: here's the link for the government decree on the Ukroboronprom transformation.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 3:34 pm to
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But the exciting part is that Ukroboronprom is about to officially cease to exist. Just two days ago, Ukraine's parliament passed the legislation that transforms Ukroboronprom from a government-run entity into a corporation, though of course, 100% of the stock will still be owned by the government.


So like Norway's oil/gas giant Equinor or Sweden's Saab. Then there is Brazil's Petrobras.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2169 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 3:51 pm to
Just passing along an interesting follow on Twitter:
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Tom Shugart @tshugart3


Tom's content is primarily focused on U.S. and China right now, specifically researching their military build up, comparing it to ours, and discussing our ability to protect our allies (Taiwan for example). I know this doesn't specifically relate to this war, but adds some context around our very own military capabilities as it relates to force and logistics. He has a lot of very informative threads that you can find yourself fully immersed in before you know it. I'd recommend some of his recent threads:

East Asia Airfields Development

Naval build up comparison between China and U.S.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2169 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 3:59 pm to
And related to the war, Sevastopol was bombed again today by Ukraine.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:01 pm to
I took a quick look at both links. At first glance he seems to be a little bit in the China fear porn side of things
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12293 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:10 pm to
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And related to the war, Sevastopol was bombed again today by Ukraine.


Good for them. If Ukraine has any hopes of getting Crimea back, they need to know that there is a clock ticking…

The Russian strategy seems transparent: Russia is hoping to run out the clock so that they are holding as much territory as they can while China pushes for peace plan - whereby Russia keeps what they occupy.

Maybe Ukraine now realizes that they should just pulverize as much as they can also and then move in. Better to occupy the rubble when the maps are drawn.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:59 pm to
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Tom's content is primarily focused on U.S. and China right now, specifically researching their military build up, comparing it to ours, and discussing our ability to protect our allies (Taiwan for example).


There is a big difference between the Chinese navy and ours. Our Navy is a Blue Water navy able to project power anywhere on the globe. The Chinese navy does have a lot of tonnage but it is primarily a coastal navy. It doesn't pack any umphf much farther than beyond the South China sea. That does pose a major concern for shipping lanes from Asia to Africa, Middle East, India and even Europe.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13269 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 4:59 pm to
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Hey man Hunter has a lot of child support to pay.


Too bad he is such a freeloader. Maybe, give him a rifle and send him to defend the Ukrainian border?
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 5:06 pm to
Too bad he is not a relentless, dawn til dark, fingernails dirty hard worker like Eric and Donald, Jr.
AND, folks say Hunter takes drugs, which Eric and D. jr. Would NEVER tolerate.
MAGA.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150128 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 5:17 pm to
This war has probably shown that the US military of 2022/2023 was not prepared to fight a prolonged conventional war after decades of retooling to fight asymetric forces and overpowered dictators

I would assume that is changing now and is going to be focused on China and I just dont see how China overcomes it but what do I know

Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24854 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:07 pm to
If the Syrian thing gets any bigger, we may need to begin another thread. I tried reading the Political Board report but it was way to stupid. I'll leave it up to the vets.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:10 pm to
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I tried reading the Political Board report but it was way to stupid.


Yeah as always
I hope a Syria thread would be allowed to stay up on the OT so that normal people can post about it
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:26 pm to
So many of the nattering nabobs of negativism have fretted about the war in Ukraine drawing the US into direct conflict with Russia, yet the possibility of war with Iran remains much more likely.

Our new assessment that if Iran decided to make a nuke, they could do it in about 3 months? That's a sign of how dangerous they have become.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:41 pm to
Anyway, @NOELreports has excellent news for Ukraine that he's been asked not to share for now.
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I can be quite clear about the front. Things are happening around Bakhmut, not in favor of Russia. The front is at a standstill, and Russian troops are short of armored equipment. Without specifying a time frame. It's coming. Another more detailed update tomorrow.


As I've said in other posts, I think Ukraine has the opportunity to roll Russia back south of Bakhmut. Ukraine has the high ground in that area and can attack downhill, while Russian logistics and maneuverability are likely compromised by the mud.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1134 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:48 pm to
LINK

Theres also this video of a large group of Ukrainian armor and Hummvees somewhere on Reddit.

Ivan better grab all the hair dryers and washing machines he can.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 6:49 pm
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14807 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 6:57 pm to
Ukraine media and military have been tight lipped around the times of their past two offenses. News has been slow again…..

If reports are true that Russia’s attack might be culminating then timing would be right

Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1134 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:29 pm to
Russian units speaking about their failed assault and what's is happening behind the front LINK
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:46 pm to
If this isn't propaganda, it is sickening how Russia is treating its soldiers.
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