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Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:30 am to jeffsdad
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Way different quality but I remember when you could be AKs for 50.
You must be old then. The best deal that I can recall is $69 for Chinese SKSs.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:35 am to Tantal
Think you had to buy a whole crate of them.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:47 am to CitizenK
Really most are maybe not large but you have all the room you need. There’s just no real excuse to have a fighter pilot that obviously overweight and out of shape. Their appearance mimics their capability in the air though so it fits.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 5:23 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 23 March 2023
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Since the start of March 2023, heavy fighting has continued in parts of the Svatove-Kremina sector of the front line in northern Luhansk Oblast. Russia has partially regained control over the immediate approaches to Kremina town, which was under immediate Ukrainian threat earlier in the year.
In places, Russia has made gains of up to several kilometres. Russian commanders are likely trying to expand a security zone west from the defence lines they have prepared along higher ground, and integrate the natural obstacle of the Oskil River. They likely seek to recapture Kupiansk, a logistics node.
Operationally, Russia's intent in the north-east likely remains defensive. Commanders probably fear this is one of the sectors where Ukraine could attempt major offensive operations.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 23 March 2023
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Since the start of March 2023, heavy fighting has continued in parts of the Svatove-Kremina sector of the front line in northern Luhansk Oblast. Russia has partially regained control over the immediate approaches to Kremina town, which was under immediate Ukrainian threat earlier in the year.
In places, Russia has made gains of up to several kilometres. Russian commanders are likely trying to expand a security zone west from the defence lines they have prepared along higher ground, and integrate the natural obstacle of the Oskil River. They likely seek to recapture Kupiansk, a logistics node.
Operationally, Russia's intent in the north-east likely remains defensive. Commanders probably fear this is one of the sectors where Ukraine could attempt major offensive operations.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 5:39 am to cypher
March 21, 2023
Risch, Wicker, McCaul, Rogers Urge Biden to Send DPICM to Ukraine
WASHINGTON – U.S. Senators Jim Risch (R-Idaho), ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, along with U.S. Representatives Michael McCaul (R-Texas), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, today sent a letter to President Biden urging the administration to provide Ukraine with cluster munitions such as dual purpose improved conventional munitions (DPICM).
Full text of the letter
Risch, Wicker, McCaul, Rogers Urge Biden to Send DPICM to Ukraine
WASHINGTON – U.S. Senators Jim Risch (R-Idaho), ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, along with U.S. Representatives Michael McCaul (R-Texas), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, today sent a letter to President Biden urging the administration to provide Ukraine with cluster munitions such as dual purpose improved conventional munitions (DPICM).
Full text of the letter
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:02 am to cypher
We should send them a squadron of F35s with American pilots + support at this point.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 9:33 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:12 am to Tantal
I couldn't afford it at the time, but I convinced a friend of mine to buy one of the Arsenal 5.45 Krinks about 10 years ago. He's quite happy now.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:14 am to cypher
It'd be huge if we could send all of our cluster munitions to Ukraine. Maybe Biden will get it done now that there is "Bipartisan Support."
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 6:16 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:59 am to 03GeeTee
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It'd be huge if we could send all of our cluster munitions to Ukraine. Maybe Biden will get it done now that there is "Bipartisan Support."
Since it costs real money to destroy (thanks to an Obama era directive) it would be cheaper to send all that tonnage to Ukraine.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:50 am to CitizenK
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Since it costs real money to destroy (thanks to an Obama era directive) it would be cheaper to send all that tonnage to Ukraine.
Yep. Just give them to Ukraine and let them "destroy" them on their soil above some key Russian positions. Everyone complaining about all the money we've sent to Ukraine should be all about this plan because it saves America untold amounts that it would take to destroy them here.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:56 am to jfan244888
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Ukraine pilots have flown the first 4 Slovakian Migs back to Ukraine.
That’s great!
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:29 am to cypher
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The United States has nearly three million of these rounds in its inventory - much of it located on U.S. and allied bases in Europe.2
DPICM stocks of more then 3 million rounds, with most in Europe already.
imagine the cost to bring back to the US for disposal....
This should be a no brainer.....
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:35 am to tigeraddict
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DPICM stocks of more then 3 million rounds, with most in Europe already.
imagine the cost to bring back to the US for disposal....
This should be a no brainer.....
per Perun report about a month or so ago, it's 10's of millions of rounds, right off DoD report of to be destroyed this year and the following two years. I'm not sure how many rounds are in Europe
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 11:12 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:47 am to jfan244888
I figured they were little kids. These are mostly teenagers. How did they get them back I wonder.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 11:51 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:04 pm to Jim Rockford
Could be a couple things:
1. Prisoner exchange.
2. Russian dissidents smuggling them back out. Another Reddit thread claims some are smuggled back through Georgia.
3. Some parents have returned to Russia actually got their kids back. Risky but its did work for at least one dad.
1. Prisoner exchange.
2. Russian dissidents smuggling them back out. Another Reddit thread claims some are smuggled back through Georgia.
3. Some parents have returned to Russia actually got their kids back. Risky but its did work for at least one dad.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:14 pm to CitizenK
This shouldn’t even be a discussion with Russia having already used clusters and thermobaric weapons on Ukrainians in this war Putin can’t bitch about any red lines in the sand being crossed since he was first to deploy them. Also we won’t even have to take on the cost of delivering our cluster bombs to Ukraine if we don’t want to, much less pay to dispose of them. Ukraine right now has their fleet of heavy lift Antonov 124 aircraft working double time to help offset our own airlift squadrons of C-17s and C-5 Galaxy aircraft that have been delivering at a blistering pace to Germany, Poland, Slovakia and Romania for delivery to Ukraine. With the government cutting spending on the building of new military hardware like the new light tank and new M109A7 Paladins in order to use that funding to pump out more artillery and HIMARS ammunition, this would be a sensible way to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. But this is Biden and the Dems we are talking about so odds are he won’t want to upset his former master Obama by providing them with clusters instead of destroying them like Obama’s administration planned.
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