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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:26 pm to
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Like Citizen said, guys that are certified to dive that deep aren’t plentiful in number and even less that can do it and that have the knowledge to take something like that out.


Similar is done to sever thick wall large diameter piling to remove offshore production platforms. No doubt in my mind that Norway, Sweden, Finland and maybe even Nigeria has them
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:32 pm to
FWIW, the theory of hydrates forming and bursting the lines is still plausible. It was hydrate formation which crashed the centrifugal compressors for Nordstream in Russia and NOT the gas turbines which were out. Hydrates is not uncommon in Russian gas pipeline.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:36 pm to
Yeah, from everything that I read today, no one still has any proof of who blew up the pipeline.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:38 pm to
Politico:

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The U.S. military is studying whether it’s possible to integrate advanced Western air-to-air missiles with Ukraine’s Soviet-era fighter jets, in the latest attempt to jury-rig old platforms with new capabilities ahead of what’s expected to be a bloody spring.

Officials are looking into whether AIM-120 advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles, designed to be fired from Western fighter jets such as the U.S.-made F-16, can be mounted on Ukraine’s existing MiGs, according to two Defense Department officials and another person involved in the discussions.
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But the integration process poses challenges, said one of the DoD officials and another person with direct knowledge of the effort. Both were granted anonymity in order to discuss internal deliberations. Not only must the missile physically be fitted onto the aircraft, it must also “talk” to the aircraft’s radar. To fire a shot, first the aircraft radar gives the missile a target, and guides the missile until it is close enough to find the target on its own.

The main problem is that the American and Soviet systems are so different that the missile and aircraft can’t communicate with each other.

The military is working on: “How do you mount this thing? Can you get all the electronics in the aircraft to talk to this thing that wasn’t meant to be launched?” said one of the DoD officials.
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:53 pm to
Some Tass news.

Poland leading the way again, good to see. I initially thought it was an additional 10 tanks on top of the 14 already promised based on the headline.

Poland to send next 10 Leopards to Ukraine next week.



Shoigu - Ukrainan losses in February 11000+

I would argue this seems lower than some reported Western sources that claimed 500+ per day Ukrainian losses.

This places Russian losses at anywhere between 27500 and 77000 based on current ratios in the information sphere.

Edit: Clarity.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 1:57 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24344 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:57 pm to
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Russian presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow considers supplies of Western weapons to Ukraine as evidence of the West’s growing involvement in the conflict in Ukraine.

Is he only figuring this out now?
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:10 pm to
Pretty good interview article in the New Yorker with historian Stephen Kotkin from February 17. Pretty good read for anyone that finds themselves on page 2000 or whatever on this thread.

LINK

It’s fairly long but he talked about the realities of ending this war. He has real concern that a war of attrition requires ramping up production and the west simply hasn’t ramped up its military production capacity to date.

He also sees almost no scenario where Ukraine regains 100% of its territory and likely sees a demilitarized zone and the Korean War resolution as the most likely outcome - hopefully with a vibrant and western Ukraine developing on the western side of DMZ.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8182 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:24 pm to
This thread is about to hit 50K posts. I wish there was a way to see the top 10 most frequent posters in the thread.

I appreciate all the work everyone has done to keep this thread focused and informative. This has become the first place I look at every day for news regarding the war.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:29 pm to
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I appreciate all the work everyone has done to keep this thread focused and informative.


You are certainly one of them!

quote:

This has become the first place I look at every day for news regarding the war.


Me too.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:45 pm to


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:54 pm to
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Protesters in Tbilisi have reached the steps of the parliament building. Situation is derailing.

Reason for the protest is a law which is a copy of the Russian “foreign agent” law and which is basically a wild card to discredit any opposition. #Georgia


LINK

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Protesters in #Tbilisi have broken through barricades and are trying to break into the Georgian parliament building.

LINK


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"Putin Khuylo" or "Putin is a dickhead" shouted during the massive protests in Georgia's capital Tbilisi


LINK

Russian Sphere of Influence not doing well....

This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Russian Sphere of Influence not doing well....


Belarus - Russian citizen saboteurs
Armenia/Azerbaijan
Moldova/Transinistra/Ukraine
Iran/Israel
Now Georgia again

Banner year for the influence/partners
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8182 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:32 pm to
Major development if true
https://twitter.com/am_misfit/status/1633215347112423424

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??"The Ukrainian Armed Forces have missiles capable of destroying the Crimea bridge and reaching Moscow." 1/

"Russian SMI writes that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have allegedly already started using a new Ukrainian development — the Grom-2 operational-tactical missile complex capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 500 kilometers — for strikes on military bases in Crimea."
2/

"It is noted that "Grom-2" was used during the attack on the Russian airfield in the Gvardeisky area near Simferopol on March 4th, 2022"
3/

Hr?m-2, Grim, Grom or OTRK Sapsan, also known as Operational-Tactical Missile System Hrim, is a Ukrainian short-range ballistic missile system.
4/end

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21027 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:02 pm to
A potentially big decision will be made by the EU tomorrow.

The Guardian:

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According to the leaked discussion paper that will be in front of ministers, member states are initially being encouraged to offer up their spare stockpiles of ammunition to Kyiv, of which up to 90% of the cost could be reimbursed by Brussels.

There will also be a seven-year plan to start this spring under which European industry will be encouraged to scale up manufacturing to meet both Ukraine’s demands and those of the member states.

“The aggregated demands of both member states and Ukraine provide an opportunity to place a massive order to send industry a clear demand signal, enabling it to ramp up its production capacity in an orderly and enduring way across Europe,” the leaked paper says.

According to the document, 25 EU member states and Norway have confirmed their interest in participating.

The paper calls for a “fast-track” negotiation with suppliers in the EU and Norway over the size and cost of these orders, with contracts to be concluded “between end-April and end-May”.

The EU policy discussion document, known as a non-paper, notes that there may be issues with the current capacity of European industry to meet the demands put upon it.
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The EU has provided non-lethal and lethal arms through its European Peace Facility (EPC), committing €3.6bn (£3.2bn) so far. The total sum the EU can spend through the EPC to 2027 has been raised, however, to €5.5bn.

Once those funds are “operationalised”, the EU’s high representative for foreign affairs, Josep Borrell, “intends to propose an extraordinary support package of €1bn focused on the delivery of ammunition, notably 155mm [rounds]”, the paper says.

The joint procurement to follow will be made through the European Defence Agency (EDA), which was set up in 2004 to help the member states coordinate their militaries. The EDA can only procure from companies based in the EU and Norway, with whom the bloc has had an administrative agreement since 2006 – a deal that was expanded to cover defence procurement in 2008.


As we have previously discussed, European NATO members do not have large ammo stockpiles, and they have been loath to give what they have to Ukraine.

If the EU buys that ammo from them at 90% of cost, though, a lot more could be freed up to go to Ukraine right away.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1166 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:03 pm to
Ukraine: don't want to give us ATACMS? Fine. We have our own.

Wonder how many missiles they have for it. And if they were to retake Mariupol how close would they be from potentially sinking more Black Sea ships?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:16 pm to
So Europe is going to pay itself to send European weapons to Ukraine?
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8182 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:17 pm to
Good question
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:24 pm to
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As we have previously discussed, European NATO members do not have large ammo stockpiles, and they have been loath to give what they have to Ukraine.


Which is why I don’t really know what this solves. They haven’t been making a budgetary argument, but a supply/self defense needs argument. I don’t know how this solves it. The EU can’t then say ok we know you’ve given up your stockpiles so the EU armed forces will cover you while you replenish.

I hope it yields significant help for Ukraine, but I just don’t know why it would if the arguments were self defense supply levels. I guess this may encourage some countries like Spain and Portugal and maybe Belgium to get on it so there’s that. I don’t know that they have significant stocks though.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:30 pm to
The Georgia Dream Party of Georgia are nothing but Russian puppets. The Oligarch that formed the party has all of his financial ties back to Moscow.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:35 pm to
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So Europe is going to pay itself to send European weapons to Ukraine?


The deal was originally that the EU would pull their weight with financial assistance to Ukraine. They haven't even done that. The bureaucracy of that place is mind boggling.
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