re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Idk how regular Americans support this still.

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IDK how any average American doesn't.

Military expenditures are incredibly expensive propositions; the goal of our military is to offset the strength of our enemies, and improve our own security situation in relation to them. Our primary antagonist of the last century is experiencing a bloodletting that combined with their demographic collapse, has essentially guaranteed they can never be a truly global threat to American security interests again, if they're not ceeded footholds- and we've done it for dimes on the dollars we've historically spent trying to prepare for conflict with them-- it may be the most cost effective American security endeavor in the last century.

At this point, we've helped destroy something like 60% of Russia's conventional military for about 8% of our normal defense budget -- all without any American lives lost.

We've also dramatically strengthened the NATO alliance (especially with the upcoming additions of Sweden and Finland).

Russia's defeat will also significantly hurt our other enemies, especially Iran and China. And it will stop Russia's provocations in Latin America that have lead to so much of our illegal immigration problems.

momentoftruth87, are you a Communist? Or do you wish that America had a dictator such as Putin? Those are really the only reasons to oppose American support of Ukraine.

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Russia keeps throwing men into this meat grinder of a war. They’ll be over 300,000 KIA before the start of next year if the war keeps at this pace. Those are some jaw dropping stats.

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There is more than most think to that 300K KIA number. I say that because the KIA tally is only one of three stats that make up the total casualty count when it comes to warfare. There’s also those who are WIA (wounded in action) and those who are MIA/POW (missing in action or prisoner of war).

As a general rule of thumb, the ratio of KIA to WIA and/or MIA/POW can be 3:1 or even as high as 10:1 compared to KIA. Now, having said that, I must point out that as far as I know we have no reliable number of wounded for either side in this war. But I will say, I’d think it a realistic estimate that when you combine the Russian tally of KIA with WIA and missing/captured, the total Russian casualty count has to be at least somewhere in neighborhood of 300K right now.

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They’ll be over 300,000 KIA before the start of next year if the war keeps at this pace. Those are some jaw dropping stats.

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Staggering. By comparison, 420k US soldiers died in WW2 and 58k in Vietnam. There has been a lot written about how this war is hastening Russia's demographic collapse.

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I totally support Ukraine but those numbers seem really high.

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It’s the Kyiv Independent. Those numbers aren’t legit. It’s propaganda for the sake of Ukrainian citizen’s morale and to keep western appetite for support high.

No shite. If there was tragic loss of life like above, more ppl would know about it. The fact Ukrainians are asking for more and losing territory is all I need to know of how this is going and how tax payers are being bamboozled by this scheme

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At this point, we've helped destroy something like 60% of Russia's conventional military

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Yeah I don’t buy that number at all.

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No one has anything more than an educated guess. But I will say the fact Russia is pulling T-62 tanks out of mothballs speaks volumes to the level of losses they’ve sustained.

For some context, the T-62 was introduced in 1961. Sending these woefully obsolete tanks to the front is akin to the US pulling The original M-60, introduced two years prior to the T-62, from display at countless American Legion & VFW posts and small town war memorial parks…



…. and sending them into battle.

Or they’re using old inventory and not prime troops as they capture Ukraine.

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Or they’re using old inventory and not prime troops as they capture Ukraine.

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Yes and no. It’s true that they’re relying heavily on conscripts and convicts to pull most of the heavy lifting but some of their best units like the 1st Guards Tank Army and their airborne VDV units have been heavily involved and suffered some of the biggest defeats of the war.